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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 15:49:07 GMT
Hi guys, my first post, please be nice.  Yesterday morning at about 7:20am, I had just come in to Stratford station on the Jubilee line, I was right at the end of the platform so had to walk all the way along to get to the exit into the main concourse. As I exited the train I came in on, the train opposite was ready to depart, and the driver told everyone to stand clear of the doors, and closed them. However, the doors then opened again, driver told people to stand clear, and then closed them again. They then opened again, and driver gave another warning. This must of happened about six times by the time I got to the other end of the platform. I noticed the drivers cab door was open at the back cab, and it was all lit up, nobody was in it. So I wanted to ask, can a Jubilee line train move when the drivers door is open? I assume the drivers door being open was the reason the train would not depart. Can the driver tell when the other cab door is open? Anyhow who ever was driving the train obviously forgot to close the door, or someone opened it from outside. (can that be done). I was just curious. One more question (sorry). In recent weeks, a lot of the trains have had the announcement switched off. Would there be any reason a driver would switch this off? Thanks so much. |
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Post by domh245 on Nov 21, 2015 16:13:40 GMT
Hi guys, my first post, please be nice. Hi! Welcome to the forum! Honestly, we don't bite!  It is standard practice on LU that any unoccupied cab is lit up, which you can really see when you look at trains in tunnel sections. ISTR that it is something to do with being able to see any people who might be in there who shouldn't! When you refer to the driver's door, I am assuming you are referring to the external doors, as opposed to the cab through to the passenger saloon. Certainly when the external doors are open, door interlock is lost, and so the train won't be able to move, as would happen in the event of a passenger door being blocked, which is probably why the driver cycled the doors a number of times. I don't think internal doors would cause a lack of interlock, but I may be wrong on that! I don't think they do, although there may be an option to see this hidden away in the train management system. Unfortunately, this is a problem with the stepping back method of operation (where one driver brings a train in, and a different driver takes it out) where you really need to rely on both drivers to do what they are supposed to. Usually they do, but in some cases, obviously not! Driver's doors can be opened externally, but they need a key, so in this case, it does sound like the previous driver failed to close the door, for whatever reason. |
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Post by rummer on Nov 21, 2015 16:37:12 GMT
Not sure about the Jubilee line but on the Piccadilly Line if the other end cab door is open then the driver will not get a pilot light so no movement. On the cdu it comes up as door open car 6
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 18:20:07 GMT
Thanks Dom,
makes more sense now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 18:35:55 GMT
The driver obviously forgot to close the rear cab door as most of us have done at some time and because he hadn't got a pilot light thought someone in the rear car was obstructing the doors, I have also done this to my embarrassment I even have gone so far as making sarky announcements on the PA about the train being delayed due to a selfish passenger before realising the rear cab door is open. Most stocks give an indication of an open door and car it's on but only the modern stocks tell the driver it's a cab door.
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Post by rummer on Nov 21, 2015 18:45:01 GMT
The driver obviously forgot to close the rear cab door as most of us have done at some time and because he hadn't got a pilot light thought someone in the rear car was obstructing the doors, I have also done this to my embarrassment I even have gone so far as making sarky announcements on the PA about the train being delayed due to a selfish passenger before realising the rear cab door is open. Most stocks give an indication of an open door and car it's on but only the modern stocks tell the driver it's a cab door. Nice one been there and done the same myself |
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Post by keppoch69 on Nov 21, 2015 20:00:23 GMT
The driver obviously forgot to close the rear cab door as most of us have done at some time and because he hadn't got a pilot light thought someone in the rear car was obstructing the doors, I have also done this to my embarrassment I even have gone so far as making sarky announcements on the PA about the train being delayed due to a selfish passenger before realising the rear cab door is open. Most stocks give an indication of an open door and car it's on but only the modern stocks tell the driver it's a cab door. Nice one been there and done the same myself You are only human, as you walk amongst men, women, she-men, he-she's, & its. |
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Post by trt on Nov 23, 2015 12:55:06 GMT
It's far easier to judge the distance to an illuminated rear cab than to a couple of red dots. As well as spotting someone who has gained entry where they shouldn't be.
These new LED signals... does anyone else see a halo of tiny speckles around them? Sometimes they form a weird "hologram" like effect and appear to be floating dots of light at some closer distance to the light itself. I'm presuming that it is some kind of "magic-eye" effect like those cross your eyes pop out posters that were all the rage in 1998.
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