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Post by snoggle on Nov 2, 2015 17:00:22 GMT
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Post by domh245 on Nov 2, 2015 18:37:08 GMT
I suspect they will spend a period of time working wherever work can be found (eg whilst other fleets go off for refurbishment, GEML perhaps?) but upon electrification of the MML to Corby, they will wind up there as 20x 4 car units. There was a lot of speculation as to where the 387s would go once freed up by the 700s, and the MML was often suggested, so when it was announced that the GWML would get them, a few people were disappointed. Being 110mph capable, they will be well suited to the Corby services, especially in the event of them becoming slightly more commuter focused. Personally I am more impressed that Bombardier have been convinced to drag the production on yet again. We were told that the current 387/2s were going to be the final final electrostar train, having used up all the options in the final order proper, but apparently not!
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 2, 2015 19:50:26 GMT
Interesting, especially when you remember that years back Porterbrook placed an order with Bombardier (or whatever they were called then) for a handful of Turbostars to be used for "spot hire". The units proved useful, were never off-lease and have now been subsumed into the standard hire agreements.
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Post by stapler on Nov 2, 2015 22:04:35 GMT
At the end of the line, when all cascadings are finished, which EMU classes do we anticipate going for scrap as a result of this and other current building?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 2, 2015 22:26:09 GMT
The oldest units on the mainland are the PEP-type: the 313s working the Moorgate-Welwyn/Hertford route, followed by the 314s in Glasgow, the 315s in NE London (Overground and tfL) and the 507s/508s in Merseyside. Apart from the 313s, these all have replacements planned - notably the 710s for the Overground and 345s for TfL Rail. I doubt if any others will be withdrawn - with so many electrification projects under way, most cascades will ultimateky kill poff Pacers. I fully expect 317s and 455s to remain until Crossrail 2 displaces them
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Post by Red Dragon on Nov 3, 2015 7:18:20 GMT
The oldest units on the mainland are the PEP-type: the 313s working the Moorgate-Welwyn/Hertford route, followed by the 314s in Glasgow, the 315s in NE London (Overground and tfL) and the 507s/508s in Merseyside. Apart from the 313s, these all have replacements planned - notably the 710s for the Overground and 345s for TfL Rail. I doubt if any others will be withdrawn - with so many electrification projects under way, most cascades will ultimateky kill poff Pacers. I fully expect 317s and 455s to remain until Crossrail 2 displaces them The 317s still have a bit of life in them (the GN ones I suspect *shock horror*). Class 313, hmmmm, rigged with a homemade CCTV system, slightly *ahem* old and unreliable. The can't hold out forever. The order would have to be bespoke, no cheapo cascading!
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Post by domh245 on Nov 3, 2015 8:20:38 GMT
The oldest units on the mainland are the PEP-type: the 313s working the Moorgate-Welwyn/Hertford route, followed by the 314s in Glasgow, the 315s in NE London (Overground and tfL) and the 507s/508s in Merseyside. Apart from the 313s, these all have replacements planned - notably the 710s for the Overground and 345s for TfL Rail. The Great Northern 313s are due to be replaced by fixed formation 6 car units at some point over this franchise. It was one of the extra things that won them the bid. The coastway 313s are staying.
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