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Post by blackhorsesteve on Jul 15, 2015 17:39:58 GMT
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rincew1nd
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Post by rincew1nd on Jul 15, 2015 19:03:29 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 16, 2015 21:47:36 GMT
I only looked at some of these and thought that Highgate and Holborn seem to have some platforms missing... of these are for the emergency services etc then they might need to know about everything thats there - not just what is actually open 'today'
Simon
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Post by piccboy on Jul 17, 2015 0:08:22 GMT
I only looked at some of these and thought that Highgate and Holborn seem to have some platforms missing... of these are for the emergency services etc then they might need to know about everything thats there - not just what is actually open 'today' Simon Simon, each station has a set of plans that include all areas for emergency services including disused platforms, staircases, passageways, lift shafts etc. For operational reasons, these are not published. |
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Post by spsmiler on Jul 18, 2015 19:53:47 GMT
I only looked at some of these and thought that Highgate and Holborn seem to have some platforms missing... of these are for the emergency services etc then they might need to know about everything thats there - not just what is actually open 'today' Simon Simon, each station has a set of plans that include all areas for emergency services including disused platforms, staircases, passageways, lift shafts etc. For operational reasons, these are not published. Thanks for your answer, piccboy. Enthusiasts would love access to that information, but alas I can almost guarantee that it would be abused... by which I mean that explorers holding battery torches would try to explore closed sections of stations - without permission. Anyway, I did wonder whether such data did exist and would be available to staff and emergency services on a 'need to know' basis. Simon |
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Post by North End on Aug 3, 2015 2:18:48 GMT
Simon, each station has a set of plans that include all areas for emergency services including disused platforms, staircases, passageways, lift shafts etc. For operational reasons, these are not published. Thanks for your answer, piccboy. Enthusiasts would love access to that information, but alas I can almost guarantee that it would be abused... by which I mean that explorers holding battery torches would try to explore closed sections of stations - without permission. Anyway, I did wonder whether such data did exist and would be available to staff and emergency services on a 'need to know' basis. Simon Whilst the axonometric plans (which appear to be the frontispiece for the station plans drawings used internally) are quite good for giving an idea of the layout, I can say definitively that they quite often omit features or areas, for example some disused areas or vent shafts. Even the detailed plans omit some areas which are not maintained as part of the 'station', which in practice can include disused, ventilation or cable tunnels. I have more than one much more detailed set of civils plans (needless to say not publically available), but for a complex station like Tottenham Court Road I've not yet come across any one document that gives a full plan. Every time one resolves one unknown, it tends to throw up a new one! |
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Post by version3point1 on Nov 14, 2015 22:20:11 GMT
The axonometric plans are generally the cover page for the complete set of Fire Compliance Plans held on the station, which shows a more conventional plan of each level of the station, in much detail (like the rooms/areas in relation to their SID plate [the small blue rectangular plates with numbers on normally written xxx/x). As stations are split into different levels (so an example of a SID plate you could see on a random door could be [Door/Area]234/[Level]4, and the lower the number, the higher the floor, so Level 1 is normally street/ground level), looking at just a floor plan doesn't immediately make sense sometimes, which is why it's useful to have an axonometric plan available for general use. But yes, as North End says, even these detailed plans omit other details, and there are numerous stations with disused rooms where even long-serving members of staff don't know what's behind them.
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