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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2015 16:24:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 8:37:01 GMT
As a P.S. to yesterday's post, can anybody tell me what the Standard Stock DM is doing stuck on a piece of isolated track at Epping? It appears to have a cab at both ends; was this usual? I don't remember seeing any like that in the days when I used to commute in them, but that was on the Piccadilly Line.
Ron Fisher.
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jul 14, 2015 8:58:46 GMT
As a P.S. to yesterday's post, can anybody tell me what the Standard Stock DM is doing stuck on a piece of isolated track at Epping? It appears to have a cab at both ends; was this usual? I don't remember seeing any like that in the days when I used to commute in them, but that was on the Piccadilly Line. Ron Fisher. Ron, it's a "cut'n'shut" made from two DMs. They used it as a depot shunter I think. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 14, 2015 9:35:26 GMT
After a bit of hunting, I've identified it as L11, built for shunting duties at Acton Works in 1964 from two 1931 (standard) stock motor cars 3080 and 3109. It replaced an earlier unit L10 built in a similar cut and shut process from Hampstead "gate" stock. www.ltmcollection.org/images/webmax/jf/i00005jf.jpgVarious other standard stock and 1938 stock cars were used on ballast and pilot duties, but always in pairs back to back, sandwiching the trucks or cars to be moved. The "Cut and shut" principle was used for the "sleet" locomotives created from redundant Central Line tunnel stock. L11 was in due course replaced by a pair of 1938 stock cars L13A/L13B. (L12 being the official number of the Blessed Sarah) |
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Post by brigham on Jul 14, 2015 9:48:47 GMT
Does the item in the pic. still exist? If so, it could form the basis of a reconstruction of two 1931-stock Driving Motor cars.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 10:29:09 GMT
After a bit of hunting, I've identified it as L11, built for shunting duties at Acton Works in 1964 from two 1931 (standard) stock motor cars 3080 and 3109. It replaced an earlier unit L10 built in a similar cut and shut process from Hampstead "gate" stock. www.ltmcollection.org/images/webmax/jf/i00005jf.jpgVarious other standard stock and 1938 stock cars were used on ballast and pilot duties, but always in pairs back to back, sandwiching the trucks or cars to be moved. The "Cut and shut" principle was used for the "sleet" locomotives created from redundant Central Line tunnel stock. L11 was in due course replaced by a pair of 1938 stock cars L13A/L13B. (L12 being the official number of the Blessed Sarah) Thanks for that; and so promptly too. I knew that someone would know - or at least know where to look. That explains the two cabs.
The question still remains though; what's it doing marooned at Epping? Is it preserved and, if so, by whom? The piece of track on which it stands is not connected, so it's not going anywhere.
Ron Fisher.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 10:29:56 GMT
Does the item in the pic. still exist? If so, it could form the basis of a reconstruction of two 1931-stock Driving Motor cars. Yes, the picture was taken last month. |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jul 14, 2015 11:49:40 GMT
After a bit of hunting, I've identified it as L11, built for shunting duties at Acton Works in 1964 from two 1931 (standard) stock motor cars 3080 and 3109. It replaced an earlier unit L10 built in a similar cut and shut process from Hampstead "gate" stock. www.ltmcollection.org/images/webmax/jf/i00005jf.jpgVarious other standard stock and 1938 stock cars were used on ballast and pilot duties, but always in pairs back to back, sandwiching the trucks or cars to be moved. The "Cut and shut" principle was used for the "sleet" locomotives created from redundant Central Line tunnel stock. L11 was in due course replaced by a pair of 1938 stock cars L13A/L13B. (L12 being the official number of the Blessed Sarah) Thanks for that; and so promptly too. I knew that someone would know - or at least know where to look. That explains the two cabs.
The question still remains though; what's it doing marooned at Epping? Is it preserved and, is, by whom? The piece of track on which it stands is not connected, so it's not going anywhere.
Ron Fisher.
This link should provide the answers you seek Ron, specifically what it's doing there etc.  www.eppingsignalcabin.com |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 14:32:02 GMT
There used to be an unelectrified siding at Epping that was very much all present and connected. I've always assumed L11 was put on the remains of it, but is that actually the case?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jul 14, 2015 14:42:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 22:08:51 GMT
Thanks for that; and so promptly too. I knew that someone would know - or at least know where to look. That explains the two cabs.
The question still remains though; what's it doing marooned at Epping? Is it preserved and, is, by whom? The piece of track on which it stands is not connected, so it's not going anywhere.
Ron Fisher.
This link should provide the answers you seek Ron, specifically what it's doing there etc. www.eppingsignalcabin.comThanks for the link. All is now explained and I have amended the caption accordingly. Ain't the internet wonderful! |
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RD11268. Pre'36 Driving Motor at Epping. by Ron Fisher, on Flickr
