Dom K
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Post by Dom K on Feb 12, 2015 18:51:50 GMT
Just a thought came to me when answering Feb12 quiz question, what is the point of standalone Oyster Card readers within gated stations, examples I can think of are Seven Sisters and Stratford. Do they create via points, or is that the point of the PINK readers!? i never use them and I'm charged the correct fare!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 19:22:48 GMT
If you come in on national rail using a paper ticket and you have and Oyster card you can touch in on the reader (same if you are leaving on national rail using a paper ticket).
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Post by rincew1nd on Feb 12, 2015 19:24:13 GMT
Pink readers are "via" ones, touching one won't increase your fare but might decrease it.
AIUI standalone readers are provided where you can arrive by train from outside Oyster and want to change to it. For example with Stratford I could have a Chelmsford to Stratford paper ticket, then touch the standalone reader to start an Oyster PAYG journey.
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Post by domh245 on Feb 12, 2015 19:30:11 GMT
The ones at wimbledon should also be used when you are arriving from tramlink and then continuing onto the tube and vice versa. I believe there are also stand alone readers at Beckenham Junction and Elmers end for a similar purpose.
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Post by sawb on Feb 12, 2015 19:55:40 GMT
There has been talk that Greater Anglia were going to put stand alone readers on the platforms at Shenfield. Whether this is ever going to happen, who knows!
I use the Stratford ones all the time, generally in my case leaving national rail and heading for the central line to avoid the mayhem of changing at Liverpool Street in the rush hour!
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Post by crusty54 on Feb 12, 2015 21:21:31 GMT
Also possible to come off DLR and go to Highbury & Islington without going through Zone 1
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Post by snoggle on Feb 12, 2015 21:36:06 GMT
There is also another, more limited, use of Standalone readers. For staff who have privilege PAYG Oyster Cards they can start and end a National Rail journey using PAYG at the point where their staff pass validity ends. For example Hackney Wick to Ilford - staff pass valid H Wick to Stratford and PAYG needed for Stratford to Ilford. The main use is, as explained above, for NR paper ticket holders who have a ticket to the interchange and then wish to use Oyster PAYG. Although TfL have thinned out the numbers of stand alone validators they are still at interchange or validity boundary points. The concept of those validators, to remove the need for people to slog to the exit and then re-enter again (imagine doing that at Highbury from the GN and then back to the Vic Line), is something I invented in the original Prestige specification for London Underground.
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Post by suncloud on Feb 12, 2015 21:59:36 GMT
I use them when getting the train (then tube) to my parents. Unfortunately I have had a tendancy to forget to use them on the return and get charged minimum oyster fare...
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Post by Dom K on Feb 12, 2015 22:23:02 GMT
Actually, I didn't consider those points and are somewhat obvious now thinking about it! I guess because I don't travel outside the oyster area, I haven't experienced this!
Thanks for the answers!
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Post by stapler on Feb 13, 2015 15:19:36 GMT
Pink readers are "via" ones, touching one won't increase your fare but might decrease it. AIUI standalone readers are provided where you can arrive by train from outside Oyster and want to change to it. For example with Stratford I could have a Chelmsford to Stratford paper ticket, then touch the standalone reader to start an Oyster PAYG journey. I frequently do this - but AFAIK, there are not such validators on Plats 9-10 at Stratford, where they'd be most useful. Even more so after "LT Rail" takes over the GE Metro services...
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Post by suncloud on Feb 13, 2015 19:30:46 GMT
They'd be useful all over Stratford... Stratford must be one of the main locations where people move from NR to Oyster ticketing outside of the main London termini (which would typically require passing through at least one if not two gatelines). Clapham Junction and maybe Watford Junction are the only two comparable locations in my mind...
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