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Post by domh245 on Jan 20, 2015 22:44:09 GMT
At the moment, all bar the few destined for internal RAT use have been purchased by Vivarail for use in the D-Train idea. A number of the cars are surplus to requirements and will be sent for scrap, but at the moment, all of the DMs, and a number of the trailers are being stored/converted
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 20, 2015 22:53:28 GMT
7058/7510 leaving Eailing Common on Low loaders The second one looks like 17058, not 7510 |
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Post by 315 on Jan 21, 2015 9:44:09 GMT
7058/7510 leaving Eailing Common on Low loaders The second one looks like 17058, not 7510 You're right. I did see 17058 further up the North Circular. |
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Post by paulsw2 on Jan 21, 2015 16:24:53 GMT
Total of 6 cars to leave 7058 17058 8058 & 7510 17510 7511 until the next run
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 21, 2015 20:55:31 GMT
Article about the "Class 278" project in RAIL today, illustrated with a picture which is captioned as a D with a C side by side - at Edgware Road! (They are both C's)
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Post by domh245 on Jan 21, 2015 20:58:39 GMT
Article about the "Class 278" project in RAIL today, illustrated with a picture which is captioned as a D with a C side by side - at Edgware Road! (They are both C's) Oh dear! I suppose RAIL has got it's reputation for a reason, reporting on these class 278s, which i've never heard of. Perhaps some other company has decided to copy vivarail and has bought the last couple remaining C stock for conversion  |
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Post by Chris W on Jan 21, 2015 21:19:10 GMT
Article about the "Class 278" project in RAIL today, illustrated with a picture which is captioned as a D with a C side by side - at Edgware Road! (They are both C's) Even on the Vivarail website the CGI pictures are of a converted/rebuilt D78 in the guise of a class 230... no 001 It did strike me that neither of the two C stock trains were of a D78 unit Type class 278 into Google and you currently get lots of links/images to Soviet submarines... that's not to say that this isn't the class they have been awarded should they come to fruition  |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 21, 2015 21:38:52 GMT
reporting on these class 278s, which i've never heard of. Perhaps some other company has decided to copy vivarail and has bought the last couple remaining C stock for conversion The proposed Vivarail conversions of D78 stock were known in some early reports, probably not officially, as "class 278". (2xx as they are diesel-electric, 78 for obvious reasons) |
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Post by domh245 on Jan 21, 2015 21:46:35 GMT
The proposed Vivarail conversions of D78 stock were known in some early reports, probably not officially, as "class 278". (2xx as they are diesel-electric, 78 for obvious reasons) My understanding was the class 278 was an earlier, separate, proposal, before vivarail, proposed by the Yorkshire train company, but clearly vivarail got themselves organised first and got the trains before TYTC. |
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Post by rtt1928 on Jan 22, 2015 10:52:29 GMT
As the withdrawal of D Stock has commenced, does anyone know if there will be a farewell tour for the stock in a similar manner to that for the withdrawn C stock ? - I hope this is the right place to ask this particular question
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Post by Chris W on Jan 22, 2015 11:58:53 GMT
You are in the right place, but any talk/planning of any Railtour will be a long, long way off... especially as the D stock will still be operating this time next year.
I'm pretty sure the D stock has gone off piste before, ignoring Dave's invasion of the Piccadilly 
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Post by metman on Jan 22, 2015 19:49:42 GMT
The D stock has been into the Chilterns before but as Chris says it's a way off possibly two years away!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 9:03:10 GMT
So:
156 driving motor and 70 trailer cars (sold for reuse)
2 trains (ERU training use)
2 (RAT use)
Rest (scrap)
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Post by class411 on Jan 23, 2015 9:20:10 GMT
There is an item on the BBC news website about MP's complaining about cascading older stock for use outside London and the South-East.
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Post by Antje on Jan 23, 2015 9:26:56 GMT
So: 156 driving motor and 70 trailer cars (sold for reuse) 2 trains (ERU training use) 2 (RAT use) Rest (scrap) Hmm, what about 1 driving motor for LTM? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 14:44:08 GMT
So: 156 driving motor and 70 trailer cars (sold for reuse) 2 trains (ERU training use) 2 (RAT use) Rest (scrap) Hmm, what about 1 driving motor for LTM? I would imagine 1 would be kept for the museum, but its not been confirmed. |
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Post by malcolmffc on Jan 23, 2015 16:00:54 GMT
There is an item on the BBC news website about MP's complaining about cascading older stock for use outside London and the South-East. Rightly so, the people of the North deserve better than Pacers and LU's cast-offs. |
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Post by crusty54 on Jan 23, 2015 18:33:47 GMT
Having read an interview with Adrian Shooter and seen more pictures today you will be hard pressed to tell the conversions are not new trains.
They are being retired very early from London having been seriously upgraded less than 10 years ago.
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Post by wimblephil on Jan 23, 2015 19:59:58 GMT
I know it's a shame for people in the North, and having lived up North through my teenage years, I can empathise, but reality check; that's life.
If you can't afford new for both, you do the best with what you have.
It's like hand-me-down clothes with Kids. You don't buy new for the little'uns and then get some fabric and try and stitch together some rubbish for the bigger ones. You clean up the original, hand it down where it's better suited, and get something more suitable for the bigger ones! It's all about fit-for-purpose!
I was once told the majority of 'new' busses we got in Tyne & Wear, were what the folk of Manchester had deemed scrap-worthy only! Such is life...
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Post by Chris W on Jan 23, 2015 20:57:07 GMT
I'd much rather the D stock be recycled as in reused, as opposed to simply scrapped...
Just riding them shouts out that they have a few good years left as they are... as opposed to the A or C stocks, which were, if we're honest, a bit tired in comparison.
I can respect the POV of others with regards to receiving what they may view as cast-offs, but compared to the 315s that were themselves cast offs, replacing previous cast off 310/312s on metro services out of Liverpool St... and which I have to endure on a daily basis... I know what I prefer.
IMO there is a metro-style use niche for them... however converting them to diesel.... that I'm not so sure, but I'm happy to be proved wrong !!!
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jan 23, 2015 22:07:55 GMT
Am I the only one who finds it disappointing that only 1 motor car is to be retained at the museum?
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 23, 2015 22:32:46 GMT
There is a thread on the VivaRail proposal here. Can we stick to withdrawals on this thread, please? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 14:23:06 GMT
Am I the only one who finds it disappointing that only 1 motor car is to be retained at the museum? No one said one would be kept by the museum. Its not known yet |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2015 17:59:20 GMT
Blimey, whilst I only did 11 years on the combine I started out on CO/CP, R stock and C69/77, then along came the future with the new D Stock, now C stocks gone D's have been through a refurbishment and are now on the way out I'm really feeling old, the S stock is the price of progress but I still cant take to them yet and I do miss transverse seating still enjoy looking out of the windows in open sections at least the S8's still retain some. Wow.. 30 years... where has it gone? It seems like only a couple of years ago as a shiny new Station Gaurd that I was so disappointed to see WHU scratched in the cabs of these nearly new units along with that looke d like tooth picks.. I couldn't understand the pointless vandalism, especially as the train telephone was so good the crew could spend the trip doing crosswords and stuff  That was back in the good old days before they painted the doors and lower sides. |
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 28, 2015 16:19:27 GMT
I have moved the posts relating to the working of double and single ended stock and associated questions regarding turning stock to a new thread here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 21:39:04 GMT
Hi all
Can anybody tell me if there D78 being withdrawal lately and if so can anybody tell me which number has gone pleased would be very grateful if some one can tell me
Thanks John Coleman
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Post by Antje on Feb 1, 2015 22:14:15 GMT
Hi all Can anybody tell me if there D78 being withdrawal lately and if so can anybody tell me which number has gone pleased would be very grateful if some one can tell me Thanks John Coleman The page that is monitoring the withdrawals as it happens is here. The number of cars scrapped may be in the minority if Vivarail gets their way. |
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Post by 315 on Feb 2, 2015 2:04:53 GMT
Where are withdrawn stock being stored for now?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 15:02:09 GMT
Booths at Rotherham have received some for scrapping - those for VivaRail have gone initially to Long Marston
Brian
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 4, 2015 10:30:22 GMT
Pictures of 7058 at Long Marston in latest issue of RAIL (today's date)
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