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Post by programmes1 on Jan 10, 2015 13:35:52 GMT
There were plans for a 1929 motor coach to be converted to diesel electric coach by adding a driving cab at the end which did not have one, did this actually happen. I suspect it was intended for the Chesham branch.
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Post by phillw48 on Jan 10, 2015 22:48:11 GMT
They would have had to add a diesel engine/generator as well but as the branch was electrified it would not have been necessary. Some 'double ended' cars were converted for running shuttle services such as the Acton shuttle.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 10, 2015 23:42:04 GMT
They would have had to add a diesel engine/generator as well but as the branch was electrified it would not have been necessary. . The Chesham branch was not electrified until 1960. When were the plans for converting this 1929 coach? There is an article here www.binnsfamily.force9.co.uk/assets/applets/History_of_Chesham_Railways.pdfwhich includes a mention of "one of the GWR "Flying Banana" railcars being tried on the branch in March 1936.........Designs using an ex-Hammersmith line electric coach unit mounted on a GWR railcar-type underframe were drawn-up. [but] a decision to include Chesham in the electrification scheme was taken - abandoned with the outbreak of war. The idea was revived in 1952, when a 3 car set of ACV 4 wheel units was tried on the branch". railcar.co.uk/type/acv/operations.htmlHowever, if the car to be converted was H&C stock, this dated from 1906, not 1929. The stock being built in 1929 was compartment stock for the Watford and Rickmansworth lines (MV and MW stock, known in post war days as T stock). Is it possible that one of the three oddballs which later formed the single train of the original S-stock was considered for the conversion? LNER steam railmotors also worked the line for a while |
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Post by programmes1 on Jan 11, 2015 12:52:41 GMT
They would have had to add a diesel engine/generator as well but as the branch was electrified it would not have been necessary. Some 'double ended' cars were converted for running shuttle services such as the Acton shuttle. Were they not just electric? |
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Post by phillw48 on Jan 11, 2015 13:50:33 GMT
They would have had to add a diesel engine/generator as well but as the branch was electrified it would not have been necessary. Some 'double ended' cars were converted for running shuttle services such as the Acton shuttle. Were they not just electric? Yes, that is what I meant. The diesel railcar never got beyond the drawing board but was based on the side engined AEC railcars as used by the GWR but with an entirely new body similar too the O, and P stock. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 14:17:22 GMT
The Met had two 'shuttle' motor coaches, original saloon stock cars that had been damaged in mishaps, and rebodied with T-stock style bodies with cabs at each end - these were used on varous shuttle services over the years before WW2. There were later LT proposals to rebuild a couple more saloon moter cars, or some early (1927) T stock motor cars, with a cab at each end for single unit shuttles - all over elecrified lines (including post electrification Chesham branch), but none of these proposals came to fruition. There are some notes in 'Steam to Silver' on these.
The District rebuilt one B stock motor car in 1932 with a second cab for the South Acton shuttle, replaced c1942 by two converted G/Q23 cars.
I have never come across a plan for a conversion including a diesel engine before (it certainly didn't come to fruition). But I can imagine there being a proposal during the development of the New Works programme proposal for the Met, for a diesel elecric conversion (or new diesel) for the Chesham branch, as an alternative to electrification. (And possibly for Epping-Ongar at the same time)
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