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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 12:24:35 GMT
Anyone know what the actual cause of the overrun engineering works was? I had to go to Reading from Maidenhead and catch the South West to Waterloo, 1h30min journey.
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Post by domh245 on Dec 29, 2014 12:30:33 GMT
My understanding was that it was a problem with verifying the signalling was working correctly, and they couldn't fix it very quickly. The hand back time kept on slipping back throughout the day, eventually being fixed overnight
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Post by melikepie on Dec 29, 2014 14:14:13 GMT
Was this the same for Kings Cross?
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Post by crusty54 on Dec 29, 2014 14:29:19 GMT
Was this the same for Kings Cross? Off topic yet again |
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Post by pgb on Dec 29, 2014 14:49:15 GMT
Paddington was indeed signalling issues as described above.
Kings Cross - even if it is off-topic: From the rumour mill a lot of road railers failed, despite them all being serviced and having their hoses replaced especially. Drivers walking off site for lunch, locking tampers down and leaving them over running lines. Rail delivery train wagons uncoupling on their own, ballast wagon doors failing to open, loco missing (good trick if you can do it!) from top and tail train.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 1:23:07 GMT
Anyone know what the actual cause of the overrun engineering works was? I had to go to Reading from Maidenhead and catch the South West to Waterloo, 1h30min journey. This has happened far to often recently; I have never known the GWML being so disrupted in 40 odd years That I lived near and used it! |
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Post by brigham on Dec 30, 2014 10:50:18 GMT
Was this the same for Kings Cross? Off topic yet again Perhaps the topic should have been 'London chaos on 27th of December'? |
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Post by crusty54 on Dec 30, 2014 12:00:15 GMT
Think King's Cross just might merit a topic
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Post by melikepie on Dec 30, 2014 21:00:00 GMT
Was this the same for Kings Cross? Off topic yet again This was not off topic. I was asking if it was related. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2015 15:15:52 GMT
Paddington was indeed signalling issues as described above. Kings Cross - even if it is off-topic: From the rumour mill a lot of road railers failed, despite them all being serviced and having their hoses replaced especially. Drivers walking off site for lunch, locking tampers down and leaving them over running lines. Rail delivery train wagons uncoupling on their own, ballast wagon doors failing to open, loco missing (good trick if you can do it!) from top and tail train. As far as Kings Cross goes, quite a good article on the official line has just been put up on London Reconnections. There may, of course, be more to it. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 24, 2015 17:58:36 GMT
Kings Cross - even if it is off-topic: From the rumour mill a lot of road railers failed, despite them all being serviced and having their hoses replaced especially. Drivers walking off site for lunch, locking tampers down and leaving them over running lines. Rail delivery train wagons uncoupling on their own, ballast wagon doors failing to open, loco missing (good trick if you can do it!) from top and tail train. Briefly, the article suggested that the roadrailers worked, and the problem was equipment mounted on the roadrailers - brand-new to ensure reliability, but unfortunately had compatibility issues. The driver problems was running out of hours, and having to re-roster: a problem that started with one train delayed in loading, and slowly snowballed to the point where at one point there were five trains ready to leave the site but only one driver available. |
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Post by undergroundwomble on Jan 25, 2015 12:21:53 GMT
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Post by spsmiler on Jan 26, 2015 0:08:03 GMT
Since Kings Cross has been brought in to the conversation, I thought I'd mention this here: according to a map in Rail magazine (the issue which became available on 21st January 2015) the blockaded (ie: no trains / tracks closed) area for the track remodelling works on the ECML between Finsbury Park and Kings Cross stations included the former Great North Railway Northern Heights line to Alexandra Palace via Highgate High level which should have became part of the Northern Line in circa 1942.
It seems that no-one at Network Rail realised that this line was disinvested-in / is now closed and suitable only for people who walk or cycle.
I suppose it could have been worse... they could have also included the rest of the Northern Heights lines to High Barnet and Edgware via Mill Hill East.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 26, 2015 7:27:28 GMT
This map (now replaced on Network Rail's site) also showed the blockade extended to New Barnet (which would have made the use of Finsbury Park difficult!), and covered Kings Cross Goods depot (site now occupied by St Martins College) and the spur to Canonbury. However, the Palace Gates branch and St Pancras Goods (site now occupied by the British Library) were shown as open for traffic!
Even more curiously, as well as these long-closed lines, HS1 was also shown on the map.
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 26, 2015 10:11:51 GMT
This map (now replaced on Network Rail's site) also showed the blockade extended to New Barnet (which would have made the use of Finsbury Park difficult!), and covered Kings Cross Goods depot (site now occupied by St Martins College) and the spur to Canonbury. However, the Palace Gates branch and St Pancras Goods (site now occupied by the British Library) were shown as open for traffic! Even more curiously, as well as these long-closed lines, HS1 was also shown on the map. And I bet you can still get to Moorgate via the widened lines!  |
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Post by Tom on Jan 26, 2015 22:52:03 GMT
My understanding was that it was a problem with verifying the signalling was working correctly, and they couldn't fix it very quickly. The hand back time kept on slipping back throughout the day, eventually being fixed overnight From what I can gather the problem was that either some testing hadn't been completed or the paperwork wasn't there. My guess (not being in the know, but having been in a similar position) would be the latter. Given the time it was found I would expect the person who did the testing wasn't still on site, and the decision for the Tester in Charge was either to wake the person who tested it up, or get it retested by someone else and the paperwork produced. The latter would seem to be the fastest option and this was what was done, it did however push the handback time back quite considerably. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 27, 2015 10:23:18 GMT
And I bet you can still get to Moorgate via the widened lines! Well, not during the blockade you couldn't, but the York Road and Hotel Curves are indeed shown on the map - makes you wonder whether building the new connection at Belle Isle (which is not shown) was worth the hassle really.................... I'm not sure whether the Northern City Line to Moorgate is shown or not, since it runs underneath the thick red line showing the supposedly-blockaded Canonbury spur. The map is reproduced in the current issue of RAIL for your amusement |
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Post by John Tuthill on Jan 27, 2015 11:04:14 GMT
And I bet you can still get to Moorgate via the widened lines! Well, not during the blockade you couldn't, but the York Road and Hotel Curves are indeed shown on the map - makes you wonder whether building the new connection at Belle Isle (which is not shown) was worth the hassle really.................... I'm not sure whether the Northern City Line to Moorgate is shown or not, since it runs underneath the thick red line showing the supposedly-blockaded Canonbury spur. The map is reproduced in the current issue of RAIL for your amusement The island of Sodor comes to mind, their rail map is more accurate and up to date!! |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jan 27, 2015 13:02:51 GMT
Well, not during the blockade you couldn't, but the York Road and Hotel Curves are indeed shown on the map - makes you wonder whether building the new connection at Belle Isle (which is not shown) was worth the hassle really.................... I'm not sure whether the Northern City Line to Moorgate is shown or not, since it runs underneath the thick red line showing the supposedly-blockaded Canonbury spur. The map is reproduced in the current issue of RAIL for your amusement The island of Sodor comes to mind, their rail map is more accurate and up to date!! Yes, and even when they bricked up Henry in a tunnel there was hardly any disruption. |
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