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Post by stapler on Dec 19, 2014 14:16:25 GMT
Anyone know where the Underground scenes in Passport to Pimlico were filmed in 1949? The location of the film was in Hercules Rd SE1, but District R stock trains are filmed, plus a "border post" scene in cars, which would have come nowhere near Lambeth North!
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Post by John Tuthill on Dec 19, 2014 14:28:12 GMT
Anyone know where the Underground scenes in Passport to Pimlico were filmed in 1949? The location of the film was in Hercules Rd SE1, but District R stock trains are filmed, plus a "border post" scene in cars, which would have come nowhere near Lambeth North! Check out the web page "REEL STREETS.COM" its a gold mine for film locations. Trying to find another web page with shows a mock up of a 'Q' stock being built at Ealing studios. Watch this space  |
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Post by John Tuthill on Dec 19, 2014 14:43:05 GMT
Anyone know where the Underground scenes in Passport to Pimlico were filmed in 1949? The location of the film was in Hercules Rd SE1, but District R stock trains are filmed, plus a "border post" scene in cars, which would have come nowhere near Lambeth North! Check out the web page "REEL STREETS.COM" its a gold mine for film locations. Trying to find another web page with shows a mock up of a 'Q' stock being built at Ealing studios. Watch this space There is a photo of the 'Underground Train' on the Guardian film webpage: Passport to Pimlico |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 19, 2014 15:04:02 GMT
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Post by stapler on Dec 20, 2014 8:22:25 GMT
Thanks all. Most illuminating!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 23:57:10 GMT
Not a Q23 but an E Class motor of 1914 - one that was originally a trailer, converted to motor car late-1920s by the headlight arrangement. A mock up .... The roof has a clerestory, that the E class didn't - artists licence and all that.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 21, 2014 0:09:02 GMT
The live shot is a Q23, but the mock up is something else: the clerestory would preclude an E stock, but from reference to Brian Hardy's "Surface Stock 1933-1959" it looks like C or D stock from 1910-11, the neater destination panel and marker lights identifying it as one of the motor cars converted from trailers in 1928-30. (the C,D,E stock, together with G, K, L and M stock cars not converted to air-door operation, were also collectively known as H (for hand-worked) stock). As the H stock was on the way out in 1949 when the film was made, displaced by new R stock units, I wonder if this "mock up" was actually a real vehicle sold to the film studio for the purpose?
Edit - further and better particulars
The C,D,E stock trailers converted to motors in 1928-30 were original nos 537-568, renumbered 132-151, 183-197, 226-229 when rebuilt and again to 4020-4038 (even) 4033-4051 (odd) 4095-4109 (odd) and 4136-4139.
4038 was written off in the Charing Cross collision in 1938, and 4041 and 4097 were written off, presumably by enemy action, in 1941 Most of the rest of the C,D,E stock was withdrawn in the early fifties as R stock came on stream - the earliest official date I can find being in 1950, later than the release date of the film, but it may be the car, if it was a real one, was still on LT's books when used as a film set.
In 1950 4035, 4045 and 4136 were converted back to trailers (along with 29 of the cars which had been originally built as motors), becoming 8903, 8799 and 8795, for use on the Olympia shuttle, these finally being replaced by R stock in 1959.
It seems odd that a mock-up of an almost life-expired type would have been used: which makes me wonder if it was actually a real one.
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