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Post by melikepie on Jun 13, 2016 19:53:59 GMT
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Post by decaded on Jun 22, 2016 14:32:38 GMT
Found these pics of D stock at Long Marston (trade visit) on todays FB post from UK HeritageHub..........https://www.facebook.com/groups/ukheritagehub/?fref=nf
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Post by geriatrix on Jun 22, 2016 20:45:00 GMT
Its a closed group.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 10:45:59 GMT
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Post by domh245 on Jun 26, 2016 11:08:33 GMT
I find it pretty funny that they harp on about them being unsafe when they are far more crashworthy than a lot of pacer stock and probably some sprinters as well, following the work by Vivarail.
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Post by caravelle on Jun 26, 2016 11:14:35 GMT
I think facts are not the main idea here.
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Post by phil on Jun 26, 2016 11:49:08 GMT
I think facts are not the main idea here. Indeed The RMT gave up on facts long ago, preferring to engage in scaremongering and extreme left politics rather than actually being sensible about any proposed changes to the railways. Any serious points they may have are drowned out by a far larger quantity of uninformed nonsense which does their members no good in the end. |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jun 26, 2016 13:05:35 GMT
"old engines and carriages"?
"Designed only to run under ground"?
And illustrated with a picture of 1992 stock!
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 26, 2016 14:20:49 GMT
"old engines and carriages"? "Designed only to run under ground"? And illustrated with a picture of 1992 stock! Looks like 09ts to me. |
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Post by Jerome H on Jun 26, 2016 15:36:28 GMT
Isn't the Distirct Line one of the most above ground lines? The idea that working Welsh railways is more tolling than tube runs is pretty funny. But of course, it's all about DOO. The nerve of someone to use ex-LU stock on National Rail... deplorable |
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Post by John Tuthill on Jun 26, 2016 16:29:04 GMT
"old engines and carriages"? "Designed only to run under ground"? And illustrated with a picture of 1992 stock! Down to the picture library: "I want a picture of a London Train."  The best one I've seen, was about 5 years ago the London & the South East local network news on the BBC were reporting on a dispute with the buses. The backdrop photo was taken from Waterloo Bridge looking down on the Victoria Embankment. Facing the camera was a RT(!!) on the 109.  The last use of the Victoria Embankment was 1987 (The last RT in service finished on the 62 on 7/4/79) |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jun 26, 2016 17:00:40 GMT
The last use of the Victoria Embankment was 1987 2012 actually - the 388 was extended to Embankment beteeen 2008 and 2012 during the closure of Blackfriars Underground station. Not with RTs though! |
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Jun 26, 2016 17:19:49 GMT
Hysterical journalism probably more suited to rincew1nd and his Steam Roller (or whatever it ended up being called) thread.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2016 18:32:24 GMT
On a closer look, the photo shows a 2009 Victoria Line train - The light-up Indicators in the doorways that show which side the doors open at the next stop give it away.
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Post by Chris W on Jun 27, 2016 18:11:32 GMT
Cough cough... 38TS on the Isle of Wight. They've only been running for 78 years at the end of the month !!! |
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Post by John Tuthill on Jun 27, 2016 18:29:49 GMT
Cough cough... 38TS on the Isle of Wight. They've only been running for 78 years at the end of the month !!! Am I right in thinking this is the same union that represent the LUL train crews? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 19:15:41 GMT
Never forget the old adage in [local] journalism:
"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story"
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Post by bassmike on Jun 28, 2016 10:11:42 GMT
"old engines and carriages"? "Designed only to run under ground"? And illustrated with a picture of 1992 stock! Looks like 09ts to me. It is a welsh newspaper. |
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Post by metman on Jun 30, 2016 19:50:20 GMT
Interesting article!
Ignorant and inaccurate!
Written in a style by someone who's only experience of a railway appears to be of Thomas the Tank Engine.
I echo the sentiments of the rest of you, there is no problem with D stock being used at all and as stated they spend much of their life above ground!
The line that really got me was 'they threaten guard'
s jobs' think is the real issue here........
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Post by christopher125 on Jul 7, 2016 2:44:45 GMT
Worth noting that article is over a year old.
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Post by stapler on Jul 7, 2016 7:18:52 GMT
Were guards ever used on the D78s? I just can't remember. If so, they must have used the rear cab, and must have gone in the stock's infancy. These trains must have been used in the open, with no guards, for millions of miles each!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 7, 2016 7:30:57 GMT
Were guards ever used on the D78s? I just can't remember. Certainly were, from introduction 28 January 1980 until OPO 4 November 1985. |
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Post by class411 on Jul 7, 2016 9:14:02 GMT
Were guards ever used on the D78s? I just can't remember. Certainly were, from introduction 28 January 1980 until OPO 4 November 1985. It's weird how you can fail to notice these things. I commuted on this stock from Canon Street to Bromley By Bow for a year during this period and I have no recollection of ever seeing a guard. Probably because my alighting point was at the front of the train so the guard would have been in a more rearwards carriage, and also possibly because, at the time, (apart from the Victoria line), a guard was just expected, so would not have been something specifically notable. What I do remember is that there was a blind man who often used the same train who would frequently head towards the inter-carriage gap. We (others on the platform) would always rush to guide him to a door. I'm sure he had the situation under control, but no one was prepared to take the risk. I always wondered why they didn't fit something to block that gap, and, of course, in later years, that's exactly what they did. [\RANDOM REMINISCENCE] |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 13:48:17 GMT
Certainly were, from introduction 28 January 1980 until OPO 4 November 1985. It's weird how you can fail to notice these things. I commuted on this stock from Canon Street to Bromley By Bow for a year during this period and I have no recollection of ever seeing a guard. Probably because my alighting point was at the front of the train so the guard would have been in a more rearwards carriage, and also possibly because, at the time, (apart from the Victoria line), a guard was just expected, so would not have been something specifically notable. What I do remember is that there was a blind man who often used the same train who would frequently head towards the inter-carriage gap. We (others on the platform) would always rush to guide him to a door. I'm sure he had the situation under control, but no one was prepared to take the risk. I always wondered why they didn't fit something to block that gap, and, of course, in later years, that's exactly what they did. [\RANDOM REMINISCENCE] The guard would be in the rear cab |
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Post by class411 on Jul 7, 2016 14:56:56 GMT
It's weird how you can fail to notice these things. I commuted on this stock from Canon Street to Bromley By Bow for a year during this period and I have no recollection of ever seeing a guard. Probably because my alighting point was at the front of the train so the guard would have been in a more rearwards carriage, and also possibly because, at the time, (apart from the Victoria line), a guard was just expected, so would not have been something specifically notable. What I do remember is that there was a blind man who often used the same train who would frequently head towards the inter-carriage gap. We (others on the platform) would always rush to guide him to a door. I'm sure he had the situation under control, but no one was prepared to take the risk. I always wondered why they didn't fit something to block that gap, and, of course, in later years, that's exactly what they did. [\RANDOM REMINISCENCE] The guard would be in the rear cab Ah, that explains it. My memory of guards was mainly from my childhood, when they were in carriages, and had a small panel containing a fascinating purple light (marked IIRC 'Pilot'). [TIC]They had a bar so that when things got really crowded, they could make things even worse by reducing the size of one of the carriage they were in. [/TIC] |
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Post by Jerome H on Jul 7, 2016 14:59:06 GMT
The guard would be in the rear cab Ah, that explains it. My memory of guards was mainly from my childhood, when they were in carriages, and had a small panel containing a fascinating purple light (marked IIRC 'Pilot'). [TIC]They had a bar so that when things got really crowded, they could make things even worse by reducing the size of one of the carriage they were in. [/TIC] Could you imagine if they didn't use the bar and had to squeeze there way back and forth across the train in the short interval between gaps. Oh the dwell times |
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Post by philthetube on Jul 7, 2016 16:21:48 GMT
Ah, that explains it. My memory of guards was mainly from my childhood, when they were in carriages, and had a small panel containing a fascinating purple light (marked IIRC 'Pilot'). [TIC]They had a bar so that when things got really crowded, they could make things even worse by reducing the size of one of the carriage they were in. [/TIC] Could you imagine if they didn't use the bar and had to squeeze there way back and forth across the train in the short interval between gaps. Oh the dwell times Especially as the buttons were live and it was possible to open the train doors at any speed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 20:25:49 GMT
I to remember watching the Guard on the 1938 Tube Carriages, in the rear car behind the Guard Only bar, opening and closing the doors at each station.
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Post by stapler on Jul 7, 2016 21:02:33 GMT
Certainly in the 38s, 59s and 62s the guard was more evident, riding in the last car and the front end of that carriage. In the C69s the rear cab was used, but for some reason that 5-year period had just escaped my memory....
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