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Post by hobbayne on Nov 22, 2014 21:14:57 GMT
At the west end of both platforms is what appears to be a secondary exit. I have never seen these exits open to the public. Anyone know when these where last used??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 21:54:21 GMT
The nearest I can get to is "1980s". It was closed as a cost saving measure so that end didn't have to have UTS equipment etc. fitted.
If anyone else can get a closer date, would be much appreciated.
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Post by superteacher on Nov 22, 2014 22:01:49 GMT
The nearest I can get to is "1980s". It was closed as a cost saving measure so that end didn't have to have UTS equipment etc. fitted. If anyone else can get a closer date, would be much appreciated. There used to be a lot more stations with secondary entrances that were, no doubt, closed for the same reason. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 22:02:26 GMT
According to video125's DEV it was early 1980s but I'm afraid I can't improve any more than that.
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Post by stapler on Nov 23, 2014 11:15:43 GMT
I'm pretty sure it was earlier than that. In the late 60s, they were open intermittently, and the London end booking office was (like the other BH station at Roding Valley) equipped with a converted bus Gibson ticket machine. I suspect they closed in the 70s. Buckhurst Hill is not one of the busiest outer stations and in the spirit of gradual retrenchement LT had at the time, they were considered expendable. Well before UTS.
There have been recent talks between LU and the Buckhurst Hill Residents' society to try to get them reopened (the public subway near them, which replaced the level crossing, is still open), but I haven't heard the result.
Anyone have a Gibson ticket issued from there they could scan?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 22:11:49 GMT
The entrance was definitely closed in 1982 - Underground News states. I will try and get a definitive date when I can.
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Post by hobbayne on Nov 25, 2014 9:26:39 GMT
I wonder why they waste electricity by keeping it so well lit? Seems strange having a well illuminated subway that hasnt been used for 32 years??
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Post by theblackferret on Nov 25, 2014 11:27:34 GMT
Wiki states:
There are disused exit/entrances to the south of the station that date from the transfer to the Underground; these gave direct access to Lower Queens Road and Queens Road. The pedestrian underpass between these two roads is still open. These exits were closed permanently in the 1980s, saving the expense of installing automatic ticket barriers on these additional two entries.
At least that gives us a potentially good reason for closure.
1982 would fit with the introduction of ATS, as was.
I wonder, on a further point, as to whether these were only ever used in peak hours before permanent closure, and whether, if it were the case, that commenced when LT took over in 1948?
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Post by Chris M on Nov 25, 2014 11:59:25 GMT
I wonder why they waste electricity by keeping it so well lit? Seems strange having a well illuminated subway that hasnt been used for 32 years?? The subway is open and used, it just doesn't give access to the station any more. |
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Post by stapler on Nov 25, 2014 15:24:49 GMT
As I said, it was way before any ticket gate of any type was installed at the end of the Central Line. It was just a cost-saving measure. And I guess relatively few passengers used it. That would have changed in 1988, when a large Waitrose opened adjacent. Was it open only at peak hours? It might have been, but I can definitely remember using it on a Saturday in the late 60s.
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Post by jamesb on Dec 5, 2014 13:01:19 GMT
I found it interesting to look through the gate of the closed entrance of the station on the westbound platform to see a traditional wooden framed ticket office window as they probably looked... It would be handy, I imagine, if the entrances were reopened just in rush-hour.
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Post by stapler on Dec 7, 2014 16:08:13 GMT
I found it interesting to look through the gate of the closed entrance of the station on the westbound platform to see a traditional wooden framed ticket office window as they probably looked... It would be handy, I imagine, if the entrances were reopened just in rush-hour. LU have told the local residents' association they are considering reopening the exits at peaks only, without gates (cf Epping up-side exit), but are worried about fare dodgers. I don't think that would include the booking office or even machines. |
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Post by stapler on Dec 19, 2014 14:11:05 GMT
The residents assn have now been told by LU they will NOT reopen the London-end exits, citing likely fare evasion
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Post by hobbayne on Dec 19, 2014 16:05:13 GMT
I thought that if you failed to touch out with your oyster card you would be penalised? I,m sure an oyster card reader installed in these exits would stop fare dodgers.Or am i missing something??
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Post by stapler on Dec 19, 2014 16:47:02 GMT
Hobbayne - the only thing you are missing is LU's paranoia on that subject. They have done exactly as you say at Epping on the up side exit, which is open in peaks
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