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Post by Indefatigable on Oct 26, 2014 2:43:23 GMT
If this is not in the right area, I am sure it will get moved to the right spot...
Whilst being held at Bedford on the way home on Thursday (due to a one under that I saw at Kettering) I was musing about the tube lines and I thought that the Waterloo and City line must be the only tube line that doesn't permit (by design and not officially) the use of wheelchairs as I wanted to go on it but was with a wheelchair user and so was prevented from doing so.
Does anybody know if there are plans afoot to correct this issue?
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 26, 2014 15:40:39 GMT
Lift being installed at Bank as part of new street level access.
Steep ramp on departure platform at Waterloo.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 15:53:35 GMT
Hi I hope to never see what you saw, anyway to your question on the Waterloo and City line Wheelchairs can travel on the line as on platform level. There are ramps like on the Victoria line, At Bank there is a Moving walkway from one of the ticket halls and at London Waterloo(Underground)it used to be part of British Rail/ Network South East. Also at Waterloo ramps are available for use (Departures only) I do also believe on the Arriving platforms there is a lift. I hope this helps you.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 26, 2014 16:13:46 GMT
on the Waterloo and City line Wheelchairs can travel on the line as on platform level. , At Bank there is a Moving walkway from one of the ticket halls and at London Waterloo(Underground)it used to be part of British Rail/ Network South East. Also at Waterloo ramps are available for use (Departures only) I do also believe on the Arriving platforms there is a lift. I hope this helps you. I think there is a lift from the ticket hall level at Bank (it is in the link passage to the Northern Line concourse, and is only open at certain times - the Tube map suggests you is staff operated: there is a call button) . At Waterloo I remember it used to be possible to access the departure platform through the Eurostar terminal on the level, but that has been closed off for many years now. Now it seems there is only level access to the Jubilee Line, not the outside world |
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 30, 2014 6:39:39 GMT
There is a lift from King William Street to Northern line lifts which operate Monday to Fridays until early evening. There is a link from the bottom of the shafts to the W&C.
The new lift and escalator access will be much better.
Links will get better with the new Northern line platform and Cannon Street entrance (where McDonalds is now).
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Post by Indefatigable on Oct 30, 2014 13:43:28 GMT
There is a lift from King William Street to Northern line lifts which operate Monday to Fridays until early evening. There is a link from the bottom of the shafts to the W&C. The new lift and escalator access will be much better. Links will get better with the new Northern line platform and Cannon Street entrance (where McDonalds is now). I certainly knew about the lift there, but I was under the impression there was no link from the Northern Line for wheelchair users... TFL certainly suggests this to be the case after emailing them |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2014 16:11:59 GMT
Strangely there is a lift/ramp at waterloo from the ticket hall to platform but no step free from the ticket hall to street
same at bank but a moving walkway instead of lift/ramp
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Post by crusty54 on Dec 19, 2014 9:50:54 GMT
There is a lift from King William Street to Northern line lifts which operate Monday to Fridays until early evening. There is a link from the bottom of the shafts to the W&C. The new lift and escalator access will be much better. Links will get better with the new Northern line platform and Cannon Street entrance (where McDonalds is now). I was wrong about the access from the Northern Line lifts at Bank - there is a change of level. However, I was surprised to discover there is access from the DLR lift from King William Street to the base of the Northern Line lifts. This means you could go down and then up to give access to the travolators. True step free access to the line will not happen before 2017. |
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Post by rsdworker on Dec 20, 2014 8:32:36 GMT
There is a lift from King William Street to Northern line lifts which operate Monday to Fridays until early evening. There is a link from the bottom of the shafts to the W&C. The new lift and escalator access will be much better. Links will get better with the new Northern line platform and Cannon Street entrance (where McDonalds is now). so what happens when lifts are closed - outside the hours or at weekends? - i thought those lifts are automatic and self operated without needing staff to override access? i know ones at DLR level had intercom to get lift - its really needs replaced with modern self operated lift - just press button and lift comes down without needing ask for staff |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 8:43:45 GMT
In my experience at Bank, of the 2 MIPs lifts only the to street level needs staff input but that can be done from the control room, when the bank of 4 lifts are closed a member of staff come with me to operate them and the lift to platform level works just like any other lift.
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Post by Chris M on Dec 20, 2014 8:49:29 GMT
The lift from the DLR level to the top of the stairs to the Northern Line does require staff input, presumably in the control room as it isn't required in person. I was waiting nearly 10 minutes on one occasion and a woman with a pushchair had been there longer than I had.
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Post by rsdworker on Dec 20, 2014 16:27:17 GMT
i find odd the those lifts in bank are staff input controlled unlike other stations - no staff inputs are required at stations with step free access
the newer lifts installed in LU have self operation - no staff control in newer lifts - only if emergency control is required which is evacuation
so there is reason of staff controlled lifts in bank?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 17:03:01 GMT
The lift from the DLR level to the top of the stairs to the Northern Line does require staff input, presumably in the control room as it isn't required in person. I was waiting nearly 10 minutes on one occasion and a woman with a pushchair had been there longer than I had. When was the last time you used that lift? |
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Post by crusty54 on Dec 20, 2014 23:48:45 GMT
The lift from King William Street does need to be supervised to prevent anti social use
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Post by Chris M on Dec 21, 2014 1:41:17 GMT
The lift from the DLR level to the top of the stairs to the Northern Line does require staff input, presumably in the control room as it isn't required in person. I was waiting nearly 10 minutes on one occasion and a woman with a pushchair had been there longer than I had. When was the last time you used that lift? Earlier this year. About 7 months ago I'd say, but I'm not sure how accurate that is. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 1:49:08 GMT
When was the last time you used that lift? Earlier this year. About 7 months ago I'd say, but I'm not sure how accurate that is. You have used it since I have, the last time I used it it operated as a normal lift (I'm on about the one to platform level) so may be it can be switched between modes. |
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