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Post by class411 on Oct 1, 2014 6:53:39 GMT
This is something that has always happened. (It's particularly common at Edgeware road on th H&S/Met lines.)
However, it seems to have become a lot more common at Earl's court, recently. Five out of my last six journeys from Hammersmith to Victoria have included an extended wait at EC whilst a later train came and went. Yesterday, two trains arrived and departed (in the same direction) while we sat there for ten minutes.
What exactly causes this and does anyone know why it now seems to be getting a much more common occurrence?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 9:13:48 GMT
Its bad luck really the signaller is putting the trains in the correct order usually or if the service is disrupted they could choose to run them out of turn to allow more trains in that area. Its not always the case especially at Earls Court if you arrive first you go first
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Post by Chris M on Oct 1, 2014 10:09:16 GMT
The same happens at Leytonstone westbound. Particularly annoying is where one train is advertised as leaving first, leaves first, and then waits outside the station for the following train (or on one occasion the following two trains) to pass it.
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Post by class411 on Oct 1, 2014 11:05:33 GMT
Its bad luck really the signaller is putting the trains in the correct order usually or if the service is disrupted they could choose to run them out of turn to allow more trains in that area. Its not always the case especially at Earls Court if you arrive first you go first I've just realised I've been extremely dense. I couldn't work out why, if both trains had come from Hammersmith, they could not have been sorted out earlier. Duh - EC is the first place (I assume) where one train can pass another, in those circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 12:23:51 GMT
Duh - EC is the first place (I assume) where one train can pass another, in those circumstances. Well I suppose you could conceivably use the fast between Acton Town and Hammersmith. It's been known to happen, but Earl's Court is the much better option. There are some trains booked to leave Earl's Court after waiting there for a train to arrive and then depart ahead of them. I haven't been able to trawl through the whole WTT but certainly the examples I've seen are usually where a train bound for one branch waits for one bound for another, e.g. a Wimbledon trains is booked to let a Richmond go first. This is obviously easier to understand and less frustrating from a passenger's point of view.
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Post by southfieldschris on Oct 1, 2014 14:45:11 GMT
The same happens at Leytonstone westbound. Particularly annoying is where one train is advertised as leaving first, leaves first, and then waits outside the station for the following train (or on one occasion the following two trains) to pass it.
And at Earls Court where 2 Wimbledon trains can be dispatched simultaneously, but it always seems to be the one I'm not on that overtakes and gets the road into West Brompton.
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Oct 1, 2014 15:38:56 GMT
The same happens at Leytonstone westbound. Particularly annoying is where one train is advertised as leaving first, leaves first, and then waits outside the station for the following train (or on one occasion the following two trains) to pass it.
And at Earls Court where 2 Wimbledon trains can be dispatched simultaneously, but it always seems to be the one I'm not on that overtakes and gets the road into West Brompton.
What you need to do is deliberately get on the train you weren't going to get on - if you see what I mean. If it still happens and the other train gets first place then you'll know you're cursed, that god doesn't love you and just wants to waste a few minutes of your life!
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Post by wimblephil on Oct 6, 2014 1:52:32 GMT
The same happens at Leytonstone westbound. Particularly annoying is where one train is advertised as leaving first, leaves first, and then waits outside the station for the following train (or on one occasion the following two trains) to pass it.
And at Earls Court where 2 Wimbledon trains can be dispatched simultaneously, but it always seems to be the one I'm not on that overtakes and gets the road into West Brompton.
I always found it to be the train in platform 4 would depart ahead of the one in platform 3, but then be held for the platform 3 departer to continue round it. The platform 4 departer was always a C-Stock and the platform 3 a D. I always figured it was either something to do with the track layout/signaling, or the fact that the D-Stock was longer, so better able to cope with the pax numbers of those bording ahead of the C. Of course, I was just making up reasons, but it helped justify it in my head whenever I'd been on the C that was held for the D to go round! Ha. It could of course just have been coincidence that it always happend like that. I've not yet experienced an S and a D (or indeed 2xD's) being dispatched simultainioisly to Wimbledon...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2014 7:20:38 GMT
that does happen
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