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Post by uzairjubilee on Sept 30, 2014 23:14:22 GMT
When did the 96TS start getting new orange DMIs - the ones which display the train number and destination on the front of the train?
I've only noticed them since last week.
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Post by Alight on Oct 1, 2014 20:40:38 GMT
The orange ones only feature on the 1996 Mk2 cars, which were introduced when the Jubilee line went over to 7-car back in the mid '00s. The red DMIs still remain on the Mk1s.
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Post by t697 on Oct 1, 2014 21:06:54 GMT
I thought the cab front ones were the same backlit LCD segment type on the 4 extra trains as on the 59 originals? All of which were yellow. I too noticed an LED dot matrix one recently. Trial, as and when replacement, or first of a full changeout I wonder?
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Post by North End on Oct 1, 2014 21:32:34 GMT
I thought the cab front ones were the same backlit LCD segment type on the 4 extra trains as on the 59 originals? All of which were yellow. I too noticed an LED dot matrix one recently. Trial, as and when replacement, or first of a full changeout I wonder? At least one 95 stock has them as well. I imagine it's part of the work being done at present to make these trains fully disability compliant. Not impressed with the 95 stock though, as instead of displaying "KENNINGTON VIA CH+", they now alternate between "Kennington" and "via Charing Cross", which I find less user-friendly. Prefer the old displays! 96 stock is supposed to be receiving a similar refurbishment starting next year I believe - I would imagine the red in-car displays will be replaced with orange, and I wouldn't be surprised if the interiors end up almost identical to the 95 stock. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 21:38:06 GMT
Not impressed with the 95 stock though, as instead of displaying "KENNINGTON VIA CH+", they now alternate between "Kennington" and "via Charing Cross", which I find less user-friendly. Prefer the old displays! À la the S stock. I agree with you. When looking at a Metropolitan line train from the side you have to wait about 25 minutes before it'll tell you where it's going!  Mind you I suppose the 'via Charing Cross' message needs to be big enough for everyone to see clearly. Just a shame that this way nobody gets to know where their train's going, sighted or otherwise!  |
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Post by John Tuthill on Oct 1, 2014 22:55:12 GMT
Not impressed with the 95 stock though, as instead of displaying "KENNINGTON VIA CH+", they now alternate between "Kennington" and "via Charing Cross", which I find less user-friendly. Prefer the old displays! À la the S stock. I agree with you. When looking at a Metropolitan line train from the side you have to wait about 25 minutes before it'll tell you where it's going! Mind you I suppose the 'via Charing Cross' message needs to be big enough for everyone to see clearly. Just a shame that this way nobody gets to know where their train's going, sighted or otherwise! Is it not possible that once it 'turns left' at Kennington going north, the 'Via Charing X' is switched off? Same southbound when it enters Mornington Cnt?  |
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Post by Alight on Oct 2, 2014 19:58:58 GMT
The orange ones only feature on the 1996 Mk2 cars, which were introduced when the Jubilee line went over to 7-car back in the mid '00s. The red DMIs still remain on the Mk1s. Whoops I realise after reading posts subsequent to mine that this thread is regarding the front-of-train DMIs.... I was referring to the internal ones, my bad! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2014 15:37:44 GMT
The orange ones only feature on the 1996 Mk2 cars, which were introduced when the Jubilee line went over to 7-car back in the mid '00s. The red DMIs still remain on the Mk1s. Whoops I realise after reading posts subsequent to mine that this thread is regarding the front-of-train DMIs.... I was referring to the internal ones, my bad! I thought that as well when I first saw this thread. I hope the original in-car DMI's (Or as I like to call them, PIS or DVA displays) from 1997 don't get replaced with orange ones, the red looks so cool! |
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Post by Alight on Oct 3, 2014 23:55:32 GMT
I hope the original in-car DMI's (Or as I like to call them, PIS or DVA displays) Without meaning to go off-topic, I would argue that 'in-car DMI' is a more precise term than the two alternatives you put forward. PIS (or better still, CIS) relates to information systems in general, which come in varying forms from audio to visual. 'DVA displays' implies the visual display on the DVA control in the T/Op's cab! |
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Post by l1group on Oct 12, 2014 20:25:42 GMT
Just a comparison between the two displays on a 1996TS: www.flickr.com/photos/wltmauc/15326795459/It seems quite a few have the LED displays on the front compared to the previous offering (just asking, what type of display did the 1996TS have on the front before the new LED ones?) |
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 12, 2014 20:36:33 GMT
I'm not sure what the official name for them is, but I think they're the front illuminated luminous flappy kind.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2014 20:55:39 GMT
I'm not sure what the official name for them is, but I think they're the front illuminated luminous flappy kind. I do hope that doesn't turn out to be the official name after all... There is a signaling protein which is genuinely referred to by serious biologists as 'sonic hedgehog'. I can't take it seriously Anyway... I quite like the new ones (North End's objections aside) - the contrast really is apparent in l1group's photo and they are much clearer and easier to read in my opinion. |
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Post by Chris M on Oct 12, 2014 22:02:11 GMT
I'm not sure what the official name for them is, but I think they're the front illuminated luminous flappy kind. If it is what I think it is, then I think it's termed a dot matrix display. |
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Post by MoreToJack on Oct 13, 2014 14:37:50 GMT
They're both dot matrix displays, but the original spec used LCD technology whilst the new ones are LEDs. I think.
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 13, 2014 16:33:08 GMT
Red or orange on black very bad for colour blind people
Not enough contrast
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Post by superteacher on Oct 19, 2014 9:22:59 GMT
The original 1992 stock ones were similar, although they were a lot easier to read than original 96 stock ones!
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