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Post by malcolmffc on Sept 3, 2014 17:10:25 GMT
In an earlier thread (now locked) it was mentioned that step free access to the W&C platforms at Waterloo used to be possible via a lift in the old Eurostar area. With the imminent re opening of platforms 21 and 22, will this lift be available again?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 3, 2014 19:44:42 GMT
In an earlier thread (now locked) it was mentioned that step free access to the W&C platforms at Waterloo used to be possible via a lift in the old Eurostar area. With the imminent re opening of platforms 21 and 22, will this lift be available again? I don't think a lift was involved - there was an entrance from the "land" side in the arrivals area at street level where the mechanical fish were) which led into the cross passage from which leads the ramp down to the W&C platforms. I used it often as a way of getting step-free to Bank and beyond. (Baby buggies can, with care, be taken on escalators although officialdom frowns on the practice) The new entrance to the platforms will be at concourse level |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 19:47:58 GMT
On the Station Master app, on the 3d map of Waterloo there is a 2nd lift at the W&C line end, is that the lift you are on about?
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Post by malcolmffc on Sept 3, 2014 20:25:25 GMT
On the Station Master app, on the 3d map of Waterloo there is a 2nd lift at the W&C line end, is that the lift you are on about? I think that is the lift from the subway concourse to the W&C platforms. It does seem extraordinary that they are spending all this money to make Bank W&C step free, which is a major piece of work, but not spending the much smaller sum required to make the the other end of the line step free as well. You'd get step free access to the southbound Bakerloo "for free" as well. Even in the 2050 doc there is no plan to implement SFA at Waterloo despite it being the busiest NR station in the country! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 20:31:34 GMT
There is already SF access to the southbound Bakerloo line at Waterloo via the (now brand new and very fast) Jubilee lift.
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Post by rsdworker on Sept 3, 2014 21:01:15 GMT
only northern line is not step free but Bakerloo northbound could be step free if they installed ramp that goes under the south bound tunnel
the waterloo city needs full step free - the departure platform ramps could removed and replaced with new lift and escalator/stairs to concourse level but for now - disabled enters from arrivals to board train then train has to shunted in depot then return to Departure platform - its not ideal but if they remove one of very steep ramps then its will be full accessible
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Post by malcolmffc on Sept 3, 2014 21:10:12 GMT
But there would still be no lift from the NR concourse to the.LU subway level so it would still not be accessible. If you look at the 3D map of the station, you can't get to that part of the station from where the jubilee lift goes without using stairs.
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Post by rsdworker on Sept 3, 2014 21:11:36 GMT
In an earlier thread (now locked) it was mentioned that step free access to the W&C platforms at Waterloo used to be possible via a lift in the old Eurostar area. With the imminent re opening of platforms 21 and 22, will this lift be available again? I don't think a lift was involved - there was an entrance from the "land" side in the arrivals area at street level where the mechanical fish were) which led into the cross passage from which leads the ramp down to the W&C platforms. I used it often as a way of getting step-free to Bank and beyond. (Baby buggies can, with care, be taken on escalators although officialdom frowns on the practice) The new entrance to the platforms will be at concourse level so new entrance should have step free to it i am not sure |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 3, 2014 21:20:15 GMT
The ramps are step free - and used for queuing on - replacing them with steps would be highly dangerous. "disabled enters from arrivals to board train then train has to shunted in depot then return to Departure platform " How does that work - W&C arrival platform has steps, does it not? The new entrance to the platforms will be at concourse level so new entrance should have step free to it How does a step free access to ex-Eurostar platforms 21 and 22 of the main station imply anything about the W&C two levels below? |
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