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Post by wimblephil on Aug 31, 2014 8:29:28 GMT
I've twice now seen S-Stock at Wimbledon with a Gunnersbury destination displayed.
Has the destination simply been selected by accident on both occasions (assuming it may be right next to Edgware Road?), or is there actually a running to there reversing at Earls Court? (Though I would assume if this were to be the case, it would reverse out of service, before continuing the leg to Gunnersbury?)
Or is there any other reason...!?
Sorry if it's a stupid question, and logically I would assume it to be the first option, but I'm just curious!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 31, 2014 8:44:04 GMT
Edgware Road from Wimbledon is code: 850
Wimbledon from Edgware Road is code: 755
Gunnersbury from Richmond is code: 855
an easy to make error!
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Post by wimblephil on Aug 31, 2014 8:46:50 GMT
Ahh I see. Thought it may be something like that, but hoped for something more interesting! Ha. Still nice to see a different destination displayed, even though I'm sure it may breifly confuse the odd traveller!
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Post by Antje on Aug 31, 2014 16:13:17 GMT
I sense another software patch to address a common human error...
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Post by Ben on Aug 31, 2014 23:30:18 GMT
Is there a list of destinations and their codes on here somewhere?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 23:43:36 GMT
Has the destination simply been selected by accident on both occasions (assuming it may be right next to Edgware Road?), or is there actually a running to there reversing at Earls Court? (Though I would assume if this were to be the case, it would reverse out of service, before continuing the leg to Gunnersbury?) Mmmm and even where trains don't need to reverse out of service, you'd describe them on their first leg as terminating at wherever they're reversing. Then you would change the destination at the reversing location. Obviously this one's going via Edgware Road and Baker Street...  |
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Post by wimblephil on Sept 1, 2014 16:41:03 GMT
Lol. Yeah. I guess it's not impossible...
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 1, 2014 16:48:33 GMT
Is there a list of destinations and their codes on here somewhere? There isn't and it would be an extremely long list as there are literally hundreds of codes for S Stock! There are currently 229 District Line codes for S7 Stock. Just an example of the first 10, gives you an idea: 700 Aldgate East from UPM 701 Barons Court Dist from ERd 702 Barons Court Dist from UPM 703 Barons Court from UPM NS CSt 704 Barking Dist from UPM 705 Bromley-by-Bow Dist from UPM 706 Dagenham East Dist from UPM 707 Ealing Broadway Dist from ERd 708 Ealing Broadway Dist from UPM 709 Ealing Broadway Dist from UPM NS CSt 710 Ealing Common Dist from ERd |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 16:54:50 GMT
Lol. Yeah. I guess it's not impossible... A District line T/Op could conceivably take it to Edgware Road, where a Circle line T/Op could take over, but it's hard to see where the next change over point would be. A District T/Op would probably have to go on the cushions to South Ken to pick it up and the Circle line T/Op they relieve would have to go on the cushions back round to Edgware Road. What a colossal waste of T/Ops' time that would be. So, expect to see it make its appearance in the next WTT...  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 16:58:36 GMT
Is there a list of destinations and their codes on here somewhere? There isn't and it would be an extremely long list as there are literally hundreds of codes for S Stock! There are currently 229 District Line codes for S7 Stock. Just an example of the first 10, gives you an idea: 700 Aldgate East from UPM 701 Barons Court Dist from ERd 702 Barons Court Dist from UPM 703 Barons Court from UPM NS CSt 704 Barking Dist from UPM 705 Bromley-by-Bow Dist from UPM 706 Dagenham East Dist from UPM 707 Ealing Broadway Dist from ERd 708 Ealing Broadway Dist from UPM 709 Ealing Broadway Dist from UPM NS CSt 710 Ealing Common Dist from ERd Crikey! What would happen at Barons Court local, though, doesn't it have to go to Hammersmith fast if it's reversing (obviously if it's not reversing, Barons Court wouldn't be the destination)? Is the option of Barons Court in particular provided simply so that a train can be stabled on the reversing siding, or else held there for a while 'cause of disruption, or is there some other option at Barons Court that I don't know about. Presumably there's an option for Hammersmith Picc from UPM, ERd, etc. too? |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 1, 2014 17:12:14 GMT
it's hard to see where the next change over point would be. A District T/Op would probably have to go on the cushions to South Ken to pick it up and the Circle line T/Op they relieve would have to go on the cushions back round to Edgware Road. Not necessarily - your District driver could have driven another train to South Ken. What would happen to that train then? Well, you've got a Circle driver just arrived - he could take it over and drive it round to ERd and beyond. (of course the swap could happen wherever on the south side of the Circle the two trains happen to meet, South Ken is the easiest if the second rain is to go anticlockwise, although Mansion House and Tower Hill are possibilities if the second train is reversing there!) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 17:35:04 GMT
it's hard to see where the next change over point would be. A District T/Op would probably have to go on the cushions to South Ken to pick it up and the Circle line T/Op they relieve would have to go on the cushions back round to Edgware Road. Not necessarily - your District driver could have driven another train to South Ken. What would happen to that train then? Well, you've got a Circle driver just arrived - he could take it over and drive it round to ERd and beyond. (of course the swap could happen wherever on the south side of the Circle the two trains happen to meet, South Ken is the easiest if the second rain is to go anticlockwise, although Mansion House and Tower Hill are possibilities if the second train is reversing there!) That's quite good thinking. Still not really a very good idea to run Wimbledon - Gunnersbury, though, I think |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 1, 2014 17:59:12 GMT
Presumably there's an option for Hammersmith Picc from UPM, ERd, etc. too? 856 Hammersmith Dist from EBY 857 Hammersmith Dist from RMD 727 Hammersmith Dist from ERd 728 Hammersmith Dist from UPM 729 Hammersmith Dist from UPM NS CSt |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 18:11:15 GMT
Presumably there's an option for Hammersmith Picc from UPM, ERd, etc. too? 856 Hammersmith Dist from EBY 857 Hammersmith Dist from RMD 727 Hammersmith Dist from ERd 728 Hammersmith Dist from UPM 729 Hammersmith Dist from UPM NS CSt Thanks  Hmmm...what about Barons Court EB local to reversing siding to Hammersmith WB fast to Barons Court WB local. Or is that not actually an allowable move? |
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Post by wimblephil on Sept 1, 2014 18:14:24 GMT
Not necessarily - your District driver could have driven another train to South Ken. What would happen to that train then? Well, you've got a Circle driver just arrived - he could take it over and drive it round to ERd and beyond. (of course the swap could happen wherever on the south side of the Circle the two trains happen to meet, South Ken is the easiest if the second rain is to go anticlockwise, although Mansion House and Tower Hill are possibilities if the second train is reversing there!) That's quite good thinking. Still not really a very good idea to run Wimbledon - Gunnersbury, though, I think Nah, probs not. Might as well continue to Richmond... |
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Post by Hassaan on Sept 1, 2014 18:30:56 GMT
That's quite good thinking. Still not really a very good idea to run Wimbledon - Gunnersbury, though, I think Nah, probs not. Might as well continue to Richmond... Via New Malden, Kingston and Strawberry Hill?  |
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Post by Ben on Sept 1, 2014 20:56:12 GMT
Funny you mention the Kingston loop - wouldnt be the first time District trains along it have been mentioned!
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Post by Ben on Sept 1, 2014 20:59:57 GMT
Dstock7080, thanks for that! Any cross-line ones? Districts bank holiday excursion to Aldgate, the mythical Uxbridge - Barking, something to Northfields non stop via the fast?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 1, 2014 22:13:05 GMT
Dstock7080, thanks for that! Any cross-line ones? Districts bank holiday excursion to Aldgate, the mythical Uxbridge - Barking, something to Northfields non stop via the fast? Something like? 414 Wembley Pk H&C from BKG 450 Aldgate East H&C from Wembley Pk 454 Barking H&C from Wembley Pk 456 Bromley H&C from Wembley Pk 458 East Ham H&C from Wembley Pk 507 Circle IR from EBY 511 Circle IR from WDN 542 Barking from ERd via Victoria 609 Circle OR from EBY 611 Circle OR from WDN 617 Circle OR from Wembley Pk 648 Edgware Rd from Barking via Victoria No Districts to Aldgate, nothing to Northfields! |
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Post by Chris M on Sept 2, 2014 0:38:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 2:18:52 GMT
856 Hammersmith Dist from EBY 857 Hammersmith Dist from RMD 727 Hammersmith Dist from ERd 728 Hammersmith Dist from UPM 729 Hammersmith Dist from UPM NS CSt Thanks Hmmm...what about Barons Court EB local to reversing siding to Hammersmith WB fast to Barons Court WB local. Or is that not actually an allowable move? Sorry took me a while to cotton on that the Dist in 'Hammersmith Dist' did not mean Hammersmith local, but that this was a code for the District line (as opposed to the Circle, or whatever). |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 2, 2014 6:58:20 GMT
[ did not mean Hammersmith local, but that this was a code for the District line (as opposed to the Circle, or whatever). Histroically the other station was known as Hammersmith Met - the two stations were built by the Met R and the MDR. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 12:27:11 GMT
True I just mean it seems that 'Dist' here means it's a District line code (so will have "this is a District line train to...") and not a Circle, Hammersmith & City or Metropolitan line code. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 14:37:00 GMT
They are cleared to run to Northfields
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 20:43:08 GMT
856 Hammersmith Dist from EBY 857 Hammersmith Dist from RMD 727 Hammersmith Dist from ERd 728 Hammersmith Dist from UPM 729 Hammersmith Dist from UPM NS CSt Thanks Hmmm...what about Barons Court EB local to reversing siding to Hammersmith WB fast to Barons Court WB local. Or is that not actually an allowable move? No shunt moves possible from The eastbound platforms at Barons Court |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 20:52:27 GMT
Thanks Hmmm...what about Barons Court EB local to reversing siding to Hammersmith WB fast to Barons Court WB local. Or is that not actually an allowable move? No shunt moves possible from The eastbound platforms at Barons Court How embarrassing! You're quite right of course. Now, let's see if I can tell the difference between east and west... Barons Court WB local to reversing siding to Hammersmith EB fast to Barons Court EB local. |
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Post by rsdworker on Sept 23, 2014 10:53:07 GMT
interesting so S7 seems can go anywhere example one could called to cover Met if one or two stocks having issues example Barking to HOTH via baker street - because S7s can operate on met line
so i think TFL needs change the map tho to make more lines showing routes that might be used
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Post by Dstock7080 on Sept 23, 2014 11:49:09 GMT
S7s would not normally venture from the Circle, District or H&C lines, with the exception of the trains that stable (out of service) at Wembley Park.
The three S7+1 trains currently on the MET only have MET Line diagrams fitted as this was a long term loan.
No provision has been made on the S7 maps to show the occasional, unplanned(!) moves to Northfields which may occur, although the signalling and platforms have been provided with the nessesary equipment.
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Post by Chris M on Sept 23, 2014 16:15:00 GMT
Do the in-car audio and visual information displays have the capacity to show Northfields?
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Post by rsdworker on Sept 23, 2014 18:30:26 GMT
S7s would not normally venture from the Circle, District or H&C lines, with the exception of the trains that stable (out of service) at Wembley Park. The three S7+1 trains currently on the MET only have MET Line diagrams fitted as this was a long term loan. No provision has been made on the S7 maps to show the occasional, unplanned(!) moves to Northfields which may occur, although the signalling and platforms have been provided with the nessesary equipment. if they had LED map showing line - more like New york subway then unplanned route would be useful - but i agree with you its could have future plans |
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