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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2014 20:47:43 GMT
This dilemma has plagued me for years….2 trains on platforms 5 & 6, off peak, no platform staff, old fashioned “heritage” indicator boards with no indication of which train will go first….you sprint back and forth with many others trying to guess which one will go first….you get it right and suddenly the second one becomes a surprise off-peak fast and whizzes by at Northwick Park!...surely a simple indicator showing which train will go first would be simple if the “heritage status” of old indicator boards precludes the modern train time indicators now at most stations….let’s hope that common sense will prevail to stop needing a “lottery” boarding strategy which isn’t needed coming the other way at Finchley Road with only one Northbound Met.Line Platform or Baker St. with timer indicators.
With the fantastic fast and frequent service now operating it is a shame to be disadvantaged by guesswork which could delay your journey by 5 to 10 minutes.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 18, 2014 21:52:40 GMT
I suppose with the frequent service, missing one train should make no difference. As for missing an off peak fast, there aren't meant to be any (although they do run to recover late running), so you can't really complain if you miss one of them!
16 tph from Harrow off peak now, compared to 10 only a few years ago!
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Post by metman on Jun 19, 2014 6:40:44 GMT
Have you checked the platform repeater signals. These are the small boxes mounted on the canopy which used to be for the guards. They will indicate which train will go first. The option I use is the Chiltern to marylebone! Fast and usually on time!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 8:13:28 GMT
Have you checked the platform repeater signals. These are the small boxes mounted on the canopy which used to be for the guards. They will indicate which train will go first. The option I use is the Chiltern to marylebone! Fast and usually on time! Thanks Metman......useful tip and I suppose you can also check on the many available Apps that show departures......doesn't help if you are in a rush and don't want to fall down stairs staring at smartphone!...Chiltern is always nice option unless you want to change at Finchley Rd...more carriages would be great on CR.....while talking about Harrow on Hill,wouldn't lifts be nice at such a strategic interchange....although looks like a more expensive and complex task than adding a "first train" indicator. |
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Post by orienteer on Jun 21, 2014 21:38:47 GMT
Similar to this, wife and I went to Uxbridge station the other day to catch a Met to town. There were two Met trains there, both with people aboard, with no indication of which was to depart first. We asked a Station Assistant, who looked at us as if we were mad, then said "I have a funny feeling that that one is going first".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 23:18:01 GMT
Have you checked the platform repeater signals. These are the small boxes mounted on the canopy which used to be for the guards. They will indicate which train will go first. The option I use is the Chiltern to marylebone! Fast and usually on time! Thanks Metman......useful tip and I suppose you can also check on the many available Apps that show departures......doesn't help if you are in a rush and don't want to fall down stairs staring at smartphone!...Chiltern is always nice option unless you want to change at Finchley Rd...more carriages would be great on CR.....while talking about Harrow on Hill,wouldn't lifts be nice at such a strategic interchange....although looks like a more expensive and complex task than adding a "first train" indicator. Its been campaigned for years to try get lifts, but I think it always goes back to cost. |
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Post by metman on Jun 22, 2014 1:43:27 GMT
The old postage lifts are still there. I believe there were issues rebuilding them. Harrow does need lifts though.
The uxbridge branch is quite easy. Look at the end of the platform and if it's on 4 with a straight green its the uxbridge line. Trains on 3 will have the route indicator lit.
I remember years ago advising a new driver at harrow who was stuck as of where to go. After tipping out on platform 4 at harrow he was waiting for the shunt signal for the siding. I had to advise him that the straight green was to proceed to rayners lane and thence to return to Neasden via the wrong road signal at Rayners. Oh for local knowledge.....
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Post by tjw on Jun 22, 2014 19:47:03 GMT
But metman the old postage lifts only accessed two of the three island platforms from the subway! So not a good place to start to get access to and from the main access which is on the footbridge.
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Post by metman on Jun 23, 2014 6:38:21 GMT
I can't see any other way of fitting them aside from destroying the ticket hall!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 6:49:09 GMT
If you stand close to the front of the two trains, to see the signal at the end of both platforms, dash to the appropriate train as a green aspect appears.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 14:11:27 GMT
Similar to this, wife and I went to Uxbridge station the other day to catch a Met to town. There were two Met trains there, both with people aboard, with no indication of which was to depart first. We asked a Station Assistant, who looked at us as if we were mad, then said "I have a funny feeling that that one is going first". I travelled from Uxbridge recently and remember seeing displays telling you which train would leave first. |
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Post by metrailway on Jun 23, 2014 18:30:33 GMT
When I last went to Uxbridge there was still this lovely next train indicator at Uxbridge: flic.kr/p/6BG1tsRegarding lifts at Harrow - they were planned but were shelved in 2009, along with most other planned lifts on the network, after Boris was elected. |
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Post by orienteer on Jun 25, 2014 20:06:22 GMT
Similar to this, wife and I went to Uxbridge station the other day to catch a Met to town. There were two Met trains there, both with people aboard, with no indication of which was to depart first. We asked a Station Assistant, who looked at us as if we were mad, then said "I have a funny feeling that that one is going first". I travelled from Uxbridge recently and remember seeing displays telling you which train would leave first. Neither the platform end indicator or the platform displays were showing which train departed first, which is why we had to ask. |
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Post by manorborn on Jul 13, 2014 17:03:18 GMT
If you stand close to the front of the two trains, to see the signal at the end of both platforms, dash to the appropriate train as a green aspect appears. That is, if you like playing a form of Russian Roulette with the reflexes of the driver. Some announce that the train is leaving, some just glide away with ne'er a word, presumably the second that the green shows. Ah well, I don't commmute every day via HOTH like I used to for much of the past 40 years so it's hard to care that much.  |
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Post by bicbasher on Jul 13, 2014 23:53:22 GMT
Recently I was on an Aldgate service from Uxbridge, as we arrived at Harrow OTH, passengers were coming off the Baker Street train on the opposite platform to board our service. When I got off at Finchley Road to change for the Jubilee, The Baker Street service arrived 3 mins later.
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