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Post by norbitonflyer on May 12, 2014 22:21:02 GMT
I need to travel to the Kensington area and can't make head nor tail of what will actually be running this coming weekend. The TfL website suggests there will beno service on the Wimbledon branch or east of South Kensington, but there will be a service from both Gloucester Road and Earls Court to Edgware Road, and from both Richmond and Ealing to South Kensington, but there is no indication of frequencies.
Anyone care to tell me what through services will be running? In particular, if I want to go to Richmond and avoid having to change at Earls Court (especially if frequencies are poor) am I better going to High Street or South Kensington?
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 13, 2014 4:52:40 GMT
Aldgate East-Upminster every 10 min South Kensington-Richmond every 7½ min High St Kensington-Ealing Bdwy every 15 min Edgware Road-Olympia every 15 min Edgware Road-Gloucester Road every 15 min
replacement buses: A- Hammersmith-Putney Bdg-East Putney-Southfields-Wimbledon Park-Wimbledon. B- Earl's Court-West Brompton-Fulham Bdwy-Parsons Grn-Putney Bdg-Wimbledon.
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 13, 2014 6:43:55 GMT
South Kensington-Richmond every 7½ min ..................... Much obliged
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 10:12:07 GMT
Aldgate East-Upminster every 10 min South Kensington-Richmond every 7½ min High St Kensington-Ealing Bdwy every 15 min Edgware Road-Olympia every 15 min Edgware Road-Gloucester Road every 15 min replacement buses: A- Hammersmith-Putney Bdg-East Putney-Southfields-Wimbledon Park-Wimbledon. B- Earl's Court-West Brompton-Fulham Bdwy-Parsons Grn-Putney Bdg-Wimbledon. Very useful info, thanks. Any chance the C Stocks will figure in any of this, or will be they be laid up for the duration? Their last days in normal traffic must be near so any heads up on that would be welcome.
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 13, 2014 11:36:42 GMT
Very useful info, thanks. Any chance the C Stocks will figure in any of this, or will be they be laid up for the duration? Their last days in normal traffic must be near so any heads up on that would be welcome. According to the timetable issued, of the 4 trains working Edgware Rd-Olympia; 2 are scheduled to be C Stock, 2 are scheduled to be S Stock. One should be on the same working both days, the other will swap train numbers.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 12:11:22 GMT
Very useful info, thanks. Any chance the C Stocks will figure in any of this, or will be they be laid up for the duration? Their last days in normal traffic must be near so any heads up on that would be welcome. According to the timetable issued, of the 4 trains working Edgware Rd-Olympia; 2 are scheduled to be C Stock, 2 are scheduled to be S Stock. One should be on the same working both days, the other will swap train numbers. If anybody could post confirming whether or not this does transpire, I'd be really grateful. It'd be quite fun to be on a C stock to Olympia since I don't believe they go there that regularly with passengers aboard and I've certainly never done it and since they'll be on their way out soon enough and all that.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 13:59:56 GMT
According to the timetable issued, of the 4 trains working Edgware Rd-Olympia; 2 are scheduled to be C Stock, 2 are scheduled to be S Stock. One should be on the same working both days, the other will swap train numbers. If anybody could post confirming whether or not this does transpire, I'd be really grateful. It'd be quite fun to be on a C stock to Olympia since I don't believe they go there that regularly with passengers aboard and I've certainly never done it and since they'll be on their way out soon enough and all that. According to the WTT still current (for the next 3 days only) every weekday train 073 empty C-Stock arrives Olympia ex Lillie Bridge overnight stabling at 0622. I observed this on 22nd April last. It departs in service 0628 to Edgware Road, except driving car 5549 (at Edgware Rd end) failed in the station on that occasion with a brake fault. The unit was eventually (after 30 mins) driven at approx 15kph back to Lillie Bridge, controlled from the cab of 5522 trailing showing white lights as though going forward, plus shunt indicator light on the roofline, while 5549 at the front end with a hastily summoned inspector in charge headed the rake back to Lillie Bridge with red lights showing. Not something you often see. Luckily no passengers showed, as it's the last of only 3 early morning Olympia-Earls Ct connections. A spare ex PG must have been brought in because a full service was reported on this Forum later the same day.
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 13, 2014 15:14:51 GMT
[q;5549 (at Edgware Rd end) failed in the station on that occasion with a brake fault. The unit was eventually (after 30 mins) driven at approx 15kph back to Lillie Bridge, controlled from the cab of 5522 I see 5549/5555/5522 has been reported in service on dates subsequent to that, so whatever the problem was must have been fairly minor to avoid it being sidelined and given a "single to Northwood" (and even more remarkable that 5555 is still in service given its own eccentricity)
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Post by domh245 on May 13, 2014 15:33:03 GMT
Indeed, 549/555/522 was out and about this morning (not sure where though, it was just absent from it's usual home) but it was back in PAGN 29 when I passed at about 15:45, It probably was back in after the morning peak, but I couldn't observe it (what with public exams, school, and all of that stuff)
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 8:35:25 GMT
Are they working on the track between East Putney and Southfields that supposedly "moved", causing the two S Stock trains to scuff against each other?
It's a bit concerning as a passenger that track can move AT ALL, and that the trains travel so close to each other that a minor sideways movement causes them to actually touch.
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 15, 2014 9:47:21 GMT
Are they working on the track between East Putney and Southfields that supposedly "moved", causing the two S Stock trains to scuff against each other? It's a bit concerning as a passenger that track can move AT ALL, and that the trains travel so close to each other that a minor sideways movement causes them to actually touch. Initial remedial work was completed overnight 8/9 May. This is planned work " Track Replacement work between Parsons Green and Fulham Broadway" although the possession should allow more work to proceed at East Putney, unless the NR power remains on west of East Putney.
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Post by domh245 on May 15, 2014 15:12:47 GMT
What would appear to be new rails are in place at Fulham Broadway in the westbound 4 foot
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Post by rincew1nd on May 15, 2014 17:06:28 GMT
It's a bit concerning as a passenger that track can move AT ALL, and that the trains travel so close to each other that a minor sideways movement causes them to actually touch. Stopping track moving completely is nigh on impossible; the same applies to roads too - the M62 between Liverpool and Manchester across Chat Moss is continually on the move despite the frequent attempts to resurface it (but do nothing about the lower layers). Stevenson knew this when he first built his railway across the moss, so his railway formation was designed to flex slightly.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 8:16:43 GMT
The clearance between two of these S Stock trains travelling in opposite directions must be very small indeed if they scuff against each other because of presumably slight track movement on a bend.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 11:54:15 GMT
Whilst out jogging this morning I noticed a yellow three part machine emerging at walking speed from the West Hill tunnel, travelling from East Putney towards Southfields. This is near where the two trains had scuffed against each other a couple of weeks ago.
A worker was measuring the gap between the rails, and I asked one of the workers what the machine was doing, as there were sparks galore from underneath it. He replied that it was grinding the rails, to make them smooth and avoiding a bumpy ride.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 18:33:15 GMT
C stock definitely did go to Olympia and looked like roughly 2 Cs to every 2 Ss to me. Assuming the same will be true tomorrow, I'd recommend it
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Post by crusty54 on May 17, 2014 19:04:46 GMT
Have to say that telling people to use the 15 bus instead of the train at Tower Hill today was far from a good idea.
Loads of staff at the station entrance but nobody at the bus stop. Lots of overseas visitors very confused.
Bus at stop for the best part of 10 minutes.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2014 20:16:52 GMT
Yes, 2xC and 2xS scheduled for the Edgware Road-Olympia service.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 12:03:24 GMT
yep, was fun taking a C stock to olypmia
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 12:50:20 GMT
yep, was fun taking a C stock to olympia Boo-urns...I'm in London this weekend and it looks like I've missed all the fun stuff. Will have to set up camp at Earls Court and hope something goes tits-up.
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Post by sawb on May 21, 2014 14:02:50 GMT
Don't know for definite, as don't know the timetable, but there are a few more weekends to come yet of these works, including 31st May/1st June, and there may be others that I've missed. So a few more potential outings to Olympia on C stock potentially!
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 14:12:41 GMT
don't think there's many weeks of c stock left in service, that said wouldn't mind another chance to play with the westinghouse
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 21, 2014 14:54:57 GMT
Don't know for definite, as don't know the timetable, but there are a few more weekends to come yet of these works, including 31st May/1st June, and there may be others that I've missed. So a few more potential outings to Olympia on C stock potentially! 24-26 May the usual 8 train 10min frequency Edgware Rd-Wimbledon, with a scheduled 4xC/4xS split. 31 May-1 June a 6 train 15min frequency Edgware Rd-Wimbledon, with a scheduled 3xC/3xS split. This may get altered during the course of the weekend. 7-8 June, no C Stock scheduled.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 17:40:06 GMT
At the bottom of my garden in Southfields is the District Line, Wimbledon>Earl's Court. There's engineering on the line all weekend, and for the last 24 hours locomotive 66702 has been stationary, on tickover. Can anyone tell me why the engine's not been switched off? It hasn't moved in ONE day, yet the engine's been running in all that time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 19:16:01 GMT
make sure it goes back on empty
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 19:33:49 GMT
Lol! Yes, but when you're in the back bedroom trying to get some kip, it's a bit annoying.
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Post by metman on Jun 15, 2014 22:22:09 GMT
Maybe they don't want to risk turning it off in case it won't go back on!
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Post by rincew1nd on Jun 15, 2014 22:39:06 GMT
Maybe they don't want to risk turning it off in case it won't go back on! I was riding an old Excelsior Consort today and was told under no circumstances to let the engine stop; to get it going again I'd need to take the spark plug out, clean it up, refit it, flood the carbs then jump on the kick start a few times. Not what I want to do in the middle of an arena surrounded by lots of cameras!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 8:01:54 GMT
Maybe they don't want to risk turning it off in case it won't go back on! That is exactly the problem. 66s are notorious for having a small-ish battery pack which gives a very limited number of restart attempts (I believe getting 2 attempts is considered a bonus) so the policy tends to be to leave at least one locomotive running in any top and tail formation. If they don't do this then there is a real risk of not being able to get them out of the possesion with the consequent overrun chaos. There was a proposal to fit class 66 with an auxilliary engine for battery charging etc when shut down but this did not proceed although Class 70s do have this arrangement.
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