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Post by flippyff on Feb 27, 2014 8:09:08 GMT
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Post by class411 on Feb 27, 2014 9:59:02 GMT
Saw this on the BBC yesterday.
There seems to be some mistake in the caption of the penultimate picture.
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 27, 2014 10:04:13 GMT
Saw this on the BBC yesterday. There seems to be some mistake in the caption of the penultimate picture. The 96 ran from Putney to Redbridge, but was withdrawn after the 1958 bus strike, can't comment on the plastic box behind it, it's not a 'Boris box' that's all I know  |
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Post by class411 on Feb 27, 2014 10:45:50 GMT
Saw this on the BBC yesterday. There seems to be some mistake in the caption of the penultimate picture. The 96 ran from Putney to Redbridge, but was withdrawn after the 1958 bus strike, can't comment on the plastic box behind it, it's not a 'Boris box' that's all I know According to the caption the routemaster shot was from 1953. However, AFAIK, the first prototype wasn't completed until 1954. |
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 27, 2014 10:52:25 GMT
The 96 ran from Putney to Redbridge, but was withdrawn after the 1958 bus strike, can't comment on the plastic box behind it, it's not a 'Boris box' that's all I know According to the caption the routemaster shot was from 1953. However, AFAIK, the first prototype wasn't completed until 1954. Where does it mention 'Routemaster', the caption says 'An old double decker bus.' In 1953 it would be a RT either from F or G (F=Putney Bridge, G=Forest Gate) |
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Post by class411 on Feb 27, 2014 11:04:25 GMT
According to the caption the routemaster shot was from 1953. However, AFAIK, the first prototype wasn't completed until 1954. Where does it mention 'Routemaster', the caption says 'An old double decker bus.' In 1953 it would be a RT either from F or G (F=Putney Bridge, G=Forest Gate) Ha! They've corrected the caption since yesterday. I dare say they were inundated by people complaining about the error. (You can guess that it's been changed because it still refers to the new bus as "its" incarnation.) |
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Post by brigham on Feb 27, 2014 13:58:52 GMT
A Regent III with a top-box, no less! Definitely 1953, the Circus is decked-out for the Coronation.
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Post by grahamhewett on Feb 27, 2014 15:45:00 GMT
One of Putney's then?
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 27, 2014 16:45:14 GMT
As I said previously, its either Putney(F) or Forest Gate(G), unfortunately we can't see its running number. |
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Post by grahamhewett on Feb 27, 2014 18:43:42 GMT
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 27, 2014 20:11:15 GMT
Sorry don't know that much about the 96 (It's John by the way) |
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Post by grahamhewett on Feb 27, 2014 21:56:00 GMT
When I next get near my "RT allocations" book (am away at the moment), I'll check sorry for being lazy. Can't have been two many RT's left in service by 1953. (Remember them well being driven out of Chiswick as trainers - didn't quite clear the class, though...
Graham
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 27, 2014 22:43:29 GMT
When I next get near my "RT allocations" book (am away at the moment), I'll check sorry for being lazy. Can't have been two many RT's left in service by 1953. (Remember them well being driven out of Chiswick as trainers - didn't quite clear the class, though... Graham Seems like you had a 'senior moment?' I take it you mean the pre war RT's? |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 27, 2014 22:54:40 GMT
When I next get near my "RT allocations" book (am away at the moment), I'll check sorry for being lazy. Can't have been two many RT's left in service by 1953 Eh, what? They were still being built in 1953! Even the rooftop versions were being built as late as 1950 according to Ian's Bus Stop "G" had some in 1953 including RT1192, 1196, 1199 - probably more - I stopped looking after three www.countrybus.org/RT/RTa11.htm#fleet |
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Post by Chris W on Feb 28, 2014 6:19:10 GMT
RTs survived in passenger service until 7 April 1979... running out of Barking Garage.
I can remember catching them (the 87) en route to my Primary School (with parent in tow) and I loved them...
I was devastated when they disappeared and I was left with Routemasters...
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Feb 28, 2014 7:13:36 GMT
My last trips on RTs were between Clayhall and Barkingside on route number 129 (c.1976).
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Post by grahamhewett on Feb 28, 2014 8:53:01 GMT
John Tuthill -yes, a senior moment (and a typo, too); I did indeed mean pre-war RTs. Like everyone else of a certain age, the post-war ones were "the" London bus for a long time (and much smoother to travel on than the very last of the STLs with their jerky gearboxes which lingered on into my early childhood). The Q1 trolleybuses were better than either of course...
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Post by phillw48 on Feb 28, 2014 9:17:28 GMT
The last RT route was the 163 IIRC.
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Post by rsdworker on Feb 28, 2014 9:37:28 GMT
When I next get near my "RT allocations" book (am away at the moment), I'll check sorry for being lazy. Can't have been two many RT's left in service by 1953 Eh, what? They were still being built in 1953! Even the rooftop versions were being built as late as 1950 according to Ian's Bus Stop "G" had some in 1953 including RT1192, 1196, 1199 - probably more - I stopped looking after three www.countrybus.org/RT/RTa11.htm#fleetthat link is dead |
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Post by grahamhewett on Feb 28, 2014 10:06:00 GMT
norbitonflyer - I think you are right: careful examination of the picture fails to reveal a route number box on the rear dome, so it would be a post-war bus.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Feb 28, 2014 10:20:45 GMT
Last RT routes were indeed the 62 87.
Did Putney or Forest Gate ever have an allocation of RTLs with roofbox body?
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 28, 2014 10:28:03 GMT
Last RT route was indeed the 87. Did Putney or Forest Gate ever have an allocation of RTLs with roofbox body? I wouldn't have thought so. Apart from RTL501, from what I've read, where the RTLs were the first to go LT fitted older bodies onto RTL chassis' as a means of removing them from the fleet list. The LAST RT route was the 62. I was standing in the crowd on that sad Saturday 7th April 1979as we watched RT 624 drive into BK |
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Post by John Tuthill on Feb 28, 2014 11:11:47 GMT
Last RT route was indeed the 87. Did Putney or Forest Gate ever have an allocation of RTLs with roofbox body? I wouldn't have thought so. Apart from RTL501, from what I've read, where the RTLs were the first to go LT fitted older bodies onto RTL chassis' as a means of removing them from the fleet list. The LAST RT route was the 62. I was standing in the crowd on that sad Saturday 7th April 1979as we watched RT 624 drive into BKAs an update regarding roofbox RTLs, Putney Garage(F) was closed in November 1958, and services transferred to AF. Forest Gate(G) closed in April 1960 Roofbox RTLs did not start appearing, apart from RTL501, until 1964, and the bodies were classified as RT10. As I wrote before, as the RTLs were the first to go, the policy was to fit older bodies on to RTL chassis. |
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Post by grahamhewett on Mar 3, 2014 8:25:25 GMT
John Tuthill - Have now managed to retrieve my RT allocation book. For the 2 months that the Coronation decorations were likely to be up, F had a large allocation of 2RT2s (including RT2), and both F and G had a large allocation of roofbox bodied postwar RTs. It's a pity we can't narrow the choice a bit.
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Post by John Tuthill on Mar 3, 2014 12:27:34 GMT
John Tuthill - Have now managed to retrieve my RT allocation book. For the 2 months that the Coronation decorations were likely to be up, F had a large allocation of 2RT2s (including RT2), and both F and G had a large allocation of roofbox bodied postwar RTs. It's a pity we can't narrow the choice a bit. Graham, I went on the Museum of London web page and managed to find the original photo. You still can see any running number, but where the BBC have morphed(?) a plastic box onto the photo, the original shows a roofbox RT on route 9(Here we go again!  Can't see the running number on this either) Regards John |
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Post by grahamhewett on Mar 3, 2014 12:39:47 GMT
John
And I thought the Beeb were supposed to be a model of truth and accuracy...
Graham
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Post by John Tuthill on Mar 3, 2014 13:00:50 GMT
John And I thought the Beeb were supposed to be a model of truth and accuracy... Graham You haven't been talking to Tony Blair by any chance?  |
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Post by orienteer on Mar 3, 2014 22:27:47 GMT
Chance to ride RTs again on route 22 on the w/e of 12/13th April, including pre-war, as part of the year of the bus celebrations.
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Post by superteacher on Mar 3, 2014 23:37:16 GMT
The 87 and 62 were my local routes when I lived in Dagenham from 1983 to 1989. They were the last two RT operated routes in London, although I moved there too late to see the RT's. Of course, the 87 in East London is no more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 19:16:57 GMT
The 87 and 62 were my local routes when I lived in Dagenham from 1983 to 1989. They were the last two RT operated routes in London, although I moved there too late to see the RT's. Of course, the 87 in East London is no more. The Leyland Titan B15 era |
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Can't see the running number on this either)
