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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 10:16:32 GMT
Hi all
Air pressure, I had forgotten that, the Central line westbound trains used to enter the tunnel at Leyton at what seemed like full speed (I guess the down ramp helped) and boy did your ears pop. That was back in the 60's.
I did travel on the line a few years ago and the train entered the tunnel much slower I suppose it was to make the ride more comfortable
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Post by neilw on Jan 24, 2014 10:35:24 GMT
the pressure actually drops in the car as the air is forced to accelerate around it, down the sides, over the roof, and under the floor. The effect lasts a good way into the tunnel until everything equalises out. I'm sure there was a speed restriction at least part way down the ramp at Leyton in the days of 62TS, but I agree it was usually taken with gusto, great fun as a kid! I used to sit behind the J door bulkhead for maximum effect!
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Post by orienteer on Jan 24, 2014 13:45:26 GMT
Talking of speed, I remember the A60 stock approaching Baker St southbound very fast over the canal bridge, where the gradient suddenly increases, one's stomach went very light and could threaten a reappearance of breakfast. There seems to be a speed limit there now!
And the ride northbound through Neasden where there was a set of points into the depot, the train lurched alarmingly, which presumably is why they took it out.
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Post by trt on Jan 24, 2014 14:38:47 GMT
I remember a trip to London as a boy (I were dragged up, 'oop north). Must have been 1977 or 78, around or after the jubilee, as I remember buying a Corgi special of the state landau. My brother bought a tub of 'Slime'. Stayed in a hotel in Holborn and used the phone booths in the ticket hall at Aldwych/Strand to call my nan up to let her know we were all well. Heck, I even remember her phone number, and she's been dead 15 years! We did so much sight-seeing in that one week! Aldwych was the closest station to the hotel, and I recall descending into the depths in those amazing, oddly shaped, wooden panelled lifts. I think it may have been the first time I'd been in a lift where there were two sets of doors opposite each other, as I recall some confusion as to which way was out.
Walking into the station again during the WW2 open event a couple of years ago was like hitting a brick wall - it has barely changed one iota since I last stepped in there.
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Post by nickf on Jan 24, 2014 15:07:35 GMT
One memory of lifts - I forget which station, but it was very crowded - was when one unidentified passenger (not customer) began to baa like a sheep. This was taken up by several others and by the time the exit doors opened most of us were baa-ing and giggling. An excellent way to start the day.
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Post by ruislip on Jan 24, 2014 21:06:11 GMT
I have probably shared these before on here, but here goes: The Bakerloo running to both Watford Junction and Stanmore Wondering why as a pre-teenager why the Bakerloo only ran to Watford Junction during the peaks. Marble Arch and Northolt reversers on the Central. What would be known as the Jubilee Line originally christened as the Fleet Line, without realizing it would take over the Stanmore portion of the Bakerloo. Uncoupling on the Metropolitan off-peak. Metropolitan trains only running beyond Baker St in the peaks. Semi-fast trains to/from Uxbridge. When there was no uncoupling on the Met, trains being renumbered what they would be if uncoupling were in practice. Thinking that you could go from either Hammersmith or Amersham to New Cross/New Cross Gate w/out changing trains. Liverpool Street terminators on the peak Met service into the city (ex-Chesham or ex-Amersham). Moorgate terminators on the Met peak City service. An eight car Met, set number 45, terminating in platform 1 at Uxbridge between the peaks M-F. Wooden next-train describers on the up platforms at Uxbridge-branch stations. Thinking that some Bakerloo line trains ran onto the southbound Northern at Elephant & Castle. A mix of red and silver on the Piccadilly. Piccadilly service beyond Rayners Lane only during the peaks M-F and up until mid-afternoon on Saturdays. Barons Court and Wood Green reversers on the Piccadilly.
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Post by grahamhewett on Jan 24, 2014 22:14:52 GMT
As to uncoupling, I can (just) remember the Piccadilly running short formations to Hounslow o/p = what I can't now recollect is whether they were 3 cars or 4 - maybe a mix. presumably, these met up with the missing cars (but where?) to continue to central London. Can anyone clarify?
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Post by revupminster on Jan 24, 2014 22:40:45 GMT
Another East London Line memories of mine is regard to Wapping Station. The foreman's office was under the stairs on the southbound and my father spent much of his shift trying to make a radio work with wires attatched to pipes that went up to the surface. When a goods train came through from the Eastern Region to the Southern Region , the whole station shook. They stopped in the early sixties.
Foremen were not supposed to travel in the lift because the ticket collector had to not only start the lift but stop it at the correct landing mark. Most lifts used to stop automatically. If the ticket collector over shot the landing the lift would be stopped by safety devices and the foremen would then have to go to the machine room and handwind the lift to the correct landing position. Years later when I was a relief clerk I was taught the technique at Edgware Road Station as part of the training.
I remember the old Wapping station before the fire and the ticket office safe used to jut out into a side passage and thieves stole it. After the fire and the station was rebuilt staff could go on to the roof and look out over the river.
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Post by knap on Jan 24, 2014 23:28:03 GMT
The train describes at Baker Street. Large light boxes that showed all the stations the train would stop at. I think they went blank when the signal went green.
I think there were some too at Edgware Road which had station names on them in preparation for the new Met line connection from Kilburn which never happened. Although this could be an urban myth.
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Post by ruislip on Jan 25, 2014 8:58:46 GMT
The train describes at Baker Street. Large light boxes that showed all the stations the train would stop at. I think they went blank when the signal went green. I think they also were at Wembley Park and Finchley Rd.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 25, 2014 9:58:11 GMT
As to uncoupling, I can (just) remember the Piccadilly running short formations to Hounslow o/p = what I can't now recollect is whether they were 3 cars or 4 - maybe a mix. presumably, these met up with the missing cars (but where?) to continue to central London. Can anyone clarify? When was this? I thought uncoupling on the deep tubes ended back in the fifties. As I understand it, with Standard stock only four car units could run in passenger service on their own: a three car had only one motor car (there was a control trailer at the other end) and would not only be underpowered but only have one compressor. They might not have continued into London, but run as shuttles from Acton Town.
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Post by grahamhewett on Jan 25, 2014 10:33:12 GMT
@norbiton flyer - I am alas, old enough to remember the '50s - my guesstimate about the short formations is that I saw them c1953-55, when I used to watch the activities at Northfields depot from a convenient piece of wasteland just east of Boston Manor Station. Also a good place to watch the comings and goings of L30/L31.
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Post by bruce on Jan 25, 2014 19:07:15 GMT
Kings Cross Met Line concourse had a bar on the right hand side at the bottom of the stairs. In its later years it was changed into a doughnut bar.
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Post by melikepie on Jan 25, 2014 20:37:47 GMT
Station on Brick Lane seeing the link through to Liverpool Street (it was still there but no tracks when the old Shoreditch station was open until its closure) and wondered why it was located in a rather odd place. So even I have been to a station that no longer exists.
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Post by rsdworker on Jan 26, 2014 0:36:26 GMT
Kings Cross Met Line concourse had a bar on the right hand side at the bottom of the stairs. In its later years it was changed into a doughnut bar. and now its no longer there - new wide passageways now after removal of ticket hall area at bottom of stairs
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Post by revupminster on Jan 26, 2014 7:44:01 GMT
Kings Cross Met Line concourse had a bar on the right hand side at the bottom of the stairs. In its later years it was changed into a doughnut bar. and now its no longer there - new wide passageways now after removal of ticket hall area at bottom of stairs If the station was on the main line then it must be the old platforms of Bishopsgate (Low Level) Station. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishopsgate_(Low_Level)_railway_station
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Post by johnb2 on Jan 26, 2014 9:40:16 GMT
Talking of speed, I remember the A60 stock approaching Baker St southbound very fast over the canal bridge, where the gradient suddenly increases, one's stomach went very light and could threaten a reappearance of breakfast. There seems to be a speed limit there now! And the ride northbound through Neasden where there was a set of points into the depot, the train lurched alarmingly, which presumably is why they took it out. Remember both those events quite well, also in the earlier days of the A stock on the run at speed down past Dollis Hill to Neasden the bogies hunted vigorously, giving all the passengers a vibro massage!!
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Post by peterc on Jan 26, 2014 13:30:13 GMT
As I was brought up in Collier Row I didn't use the tube very much. Travel around London in my early teens was always by Red Rover ticket.
I remember Romford station having a list of fares to London Transport stations posted in the ticket hall in the early 60s. I spent ages trying to find 'Mill Hill (The Hale)' on the tube map!
I do remember going through Liverpool Street once for the Circle and seeing slam door coaches in the bay platform.
Somebody mentioned the smell. I remember one element being leather from the arm rests. I think the Bakerloo was the last with these.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 26, 2014 13:43:49 GMT
Station on Brick Lane seeing the link through to Liverpool Street (it was still there but no tracks when the old Shoreditch station was open until its closure) and wondered why it was located in a rather odd place. So even I have been to a station that no longer exists. You'd have to be really old to remember Bishopsgate LL - it's been closed for 98 years! Surely Melikepie is talking about the link between the ELL and GEML at Shoreditch - the trackbed of which was visible from the platform there right up until closure www.abandoned-stations.org.uk/Shoreditch/6_Shoreditch12.jpg . Somebody mentioned the smell. I remember one element being leather from the arm rests. I think the Bakerloo was the last with these. 1938 stock was, I think, the last to have them and the Bakerloo was the last to operate that stock, apart from a handful used to augment the Northern Line fleet in the late '80s.
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Post by melikepie on Jan 26, 2014 13:51:37 GMT
Sorry, I meant you could see the tracks of the GEML from Shoreditch when it was open
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Post by roythebus on Jan 29, 2014 23:46:42 GMT
Thinking back about doing nights at PG in the early 1970's, we'd often walk to Fulham Broadway and get the N97 to Earls Court then sit in the all-night Wimpy (remember them?) having a burger chips'n'beans! Then wander down the road to read the "postcards" in the newsagent window, such euphemisms as "large chest for sale"; "dancing lessons-strict tempo"....I often wondered what they REALLY meant!! Then we'd have to wait for the N97 back to Fulham Broadway.
Another night we went to Piccadilly on the N97 for a wander around to see the night life. On the way back, one of the lads asked the clippie to let us know when we got to Green Park. Anyway, we got to green Park and the bus stopped for a few minutes. the clippie came upstairs and said "this is Green Park, are you going to get off?". "Nah luv, I just wanted to see what it's like from the top, I only ever see it from below". She gave him a clip round the ear and we carried on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 2:42:29 GMT
Talking of clippies, cast your minds back to when bus journeys were real *journeys* and the 73 ran from Richmond to Stoke Newington on a Sunday. One night I was heading back from Roehampton to Euston but was running late for my train. I mentioned this to the conductor as I got on at Barnes (by Rosslyn Park on the Upper Richmond Road) and he banged on the window to his driver and told him I'd a train to catch.
I hung on for dear life: the driver made it all the way in only 14 minutes. He did actually stop once for about three seconds. I made my train ;-P
(Google maps tells me it is about 9½ miles)
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Post by jacko1 on Apr 26, 2014 23:23:38 GMT
The chemical works at West Ham was Berk Chemicals and they as far as I know never accessed the C2C tracks across the District because it was up on an Embankment BUT they could have accessed the North/ South tracks of the North Woolwich line. Old ordinance survey maps indicate an alignment but I cannot find anything definite. yes,can comfirm that berks was accessed only from the n.woolwich line(in my memory). when i was passed out for driving at stratford in 1980,a reguler turn that i done was on the stratford market turn,with a 08 shunt loco.we would trip down tank wagons to berks.
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Post by jacko1 on Apr 26, 2014 23:38:41 GMT
Thinking back about doing nights at PG in the early 1970's, we'd often walk to Fulham Broadway and get the N97 to Earls Court then sit in the all-night Wimpy (remember them?) having a burger chips'n'beans! Then wander down the road to read the "postcards" in the newsagent window, such euphemisms as "large chest for sale"; "dancing lessons-strict tempo"....I often wondered what they REALLY meant!! Then we'd have to wait for the N97 back to Fulham Broadway. Another night we went to Piccadilly on the N97 for a wander around to see the night life. On the way back, one of the lads asked the clippie to let us know when we got to Green Park. Anyway, we got to green Park and the bus stopped for a few minutes. the clippie came upstairs and said "this is Green Park, are you going to get off?". "Nah luv, I just wanted to see what it's like from the top, I only ever see it from below". She gave him a clip round the ear and we carried on. ah,yes the wimpy bender!(a round frankfurter) wouldnt be allowed that name nowdays!1
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Post by roythebus on Apr 27, 2014 7:55:37 GMT
The chemical works at West Ham was Berk Chemicals and they as far as I know never accessed the C2C tracks across the District because it was up on an Embankment BUT they could have accessed the North/ South tracks of the North Woolwich line. Old ordinance survey maps indicate an alignment but I cannot find anything definite. yes,can comfirm that berks was accessed only from the n.woolwich line(in my memory). when i was passed out for driving at stratford in 1980,a reguler turn that i done was on the stratford market turn,with a 08 shunt loco.we would trip down tank wagons to berks. there definitely WAS a connection from the LTSR to that chemical works. I remember the cable run used to go up and over where the track was.
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Post by railtechnician on Apr 27, 2014 8:56:42 GMT
Talking of clippies, cast your minds back to when bus journeys were real *journeys* and the 73 ran from Richmond to Stoke Newington on a Sunday. One night I was heading back from Roehampton to Euston but was running late for my train. I mentioned this to the conductor as I got on at Barnes (by Rosslyn Park on the Upper Richmond Road) and he banged on the window to his driver and told him I'd a train to catch. I hung on for dear life: the driver made it all the way in only 14 minutes. He did actually stop once for about three seconds. I made my train ;-P (Google maps tells me it is about 9½ miles) Real journeys, yep Tottenham Garage to Richmond on the 73 and Tottenham Bruce Grove to Forest Hill on the 171, my father conducted on both those routes out of AR. I believe the 73 had a PVR of 100+ in those days, 1960s.
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Post by afarlie on Apr 27, 2014 14:23:43 GMT
Talking of clippies, cast your minds back to when bus journeys were real *journeys* and the 73 ran from Richmond to Stoke Newington on a Sunday. One night I was heading back from Roehampton to Euston but was running late for my train. I mentioned this to the conductor as I got on at Barnes (by Rosslyn Park on the Upper Richmond Road) and he banged on the window to his driver and told him I'd a train to catch. I hung on for dear life: the driver made it all the way in only 14 minutes. He did actually stop once for about three seconds. I made my train ;-P (Google maps tells me it is about 9½ miles) Now why does this to me bring up an image of an opened mouth Bus Inspector trying to 'give a statement' to a broadly stout British Policeman in a Jag?
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Post by John Tuthill on Apr 27, 2014 14:58:26 GMT
Talking of clippies, cast your minds back to when bus journeys were real *journeys* and the 73 ran from Richmond to Stoke Newington on a Sunday. One night I was heading back from Roehampton to Euston but was running late for my train. I mentioned this to the conductor as I got on at Barnes (by Rosslyn Park on the Upper Richmond Road) and he banged on the window to his driver and told him I'd a train to catch. I hung on for dear life: the driver made it all the way in only 14 minutes. He did actually stop once for about three seconds. I made my train ;-P (Google maps tells me it is about 9½ miles) Now why does this to me bring up an image of an opened mouth Bus Inspector trying to 'give a statement' to a broadly stout British Policeman in a Jag? Nostalgia for an episode of "On the Buses?" When the 37 went thru' to Richmond, the last trip from Richmond didn't hang about all the way to Clapham Common I can vouch for that ;)RTLs from SW happy days & nights
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Post by superteacher on Apr 27, 2014 15:18:22 GMT
Used to love the long bus journeys. 5 from Becontree Heath to Waterloo, god knows how long some of those journeys took!
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Post by metroland on Apr 27, 2014 15:31:52 GMT
Used to love the long bus journeys. 5 from Becontree Heath to Waterloo, god knows how long some of those journeys took! In simiar vein, I remember doing Victoria-Abridge on route 10 where 1 bus per hour I think did the whole route.
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