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Post by A60stock on Nov 8, 2013 21:27:18 GMT
as many have probably noticed, you see great portland street looking nice and modern, kings cross looking modern and nice again, but then, theres euston square, GRIMEY and aged. My question is, when was the last time the station was refurbished? I mean there isnt even a roundel at the station that dates from after the 90's! (i think). Are there any plans to renovate or refurb the station at all? I mean quite frankly it kind of looks nice that is hasnt been redone to modern standards! not complaining here at all by the way
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Post by rincew1nd on Nov 8, 2013 21:37:34 GMT
Blame HS2.
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 8, 2013 21:55:26 GMT
part already refurbished (new step free route part) but i agree its needs full refurbished
edit: this thread should belong to SSL forum
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Post by crusty54 on Nov 9, 2013 0:49:03 GMT
part already refurbished (new step free route part) but i agree its needs full refurbished edit: this thread should belong to SSL forum The station name friezes were going to be changed last year but the cable runs etc made it impossible without spending a lot of money. The HS2 project will mean a new direct link to Euston at the eastern end of the station. This should mean more refurb work to update the platforms. |
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Post by stuartroy on Nov 13, 2013 10:43:55 GMT
The HS2 project will mean a new direct link to Euston at the eastern end of the station. This has been on my personal "wish list" for a long time! Are there more details available anywhere? Do you know whether the link will allow interchange with the deep level lines without coming out of station? And will the name Euston Square be abandoned in favour of simply Euston? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2013 16:33:17 GMT
I hope that if they do link the two Eustons that the metropolitan railway tiling isn't destroyed. Am I right in think Euston Square is one of only two stations to have the old 1960s frieze the other being Holland Park?
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Post by trt on Nov 13, 2013 17:35:18 GMT
Am I right in thinking that they've shelved a lot of the HS2 plans for changes at Euston?
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Post by malcolmffc on Nov 14, 2013 6:59:58 GMT
Euston Square is possibly the most ghastly station in zone 1 and sticks out like a sore thumb now. It desperately needs a complete overhaul. If people really like those horrible orange tiles they can put a few in the LTM I suppose. Not everything the Met Railway did was worth keeping.
I think a Euston-Euston Sq link is still in scope for HS2, even though as you say a lot of the Euston changes have been canned.
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Post by Ben on Nov 14, 2013 8:25:00 GMT
Euston Square really is horrible, has the ambience of a public toilet.
I quite like the older tiling of sky blue bordered with orange and dark blue. Its distinctive, and far more subtle than any later scheme using those colours would be. However, its now well and truely knackered, with a mismatch of the exact shade of sky blue tiles, chips, cracks, holes and marks. The pale blue scheme on the platforms is particularly dated and dreary now, suffering from multiple not-quite-the-same shades badly. The use of square tiles without staggering gives a cheap feel compared to the bonding used on the older tilework. And the unlit, possibly black roof/girders give it quite an opressive feel.
Hopefully as said above HS2 will be the catalyst to start again and put something a bit less dated and mroe cheerful in.
What did it look like before the blue square tiles on the platform?
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Post by grahamhewett on Nov 14, 2013 16:24:03 GMT
I knew why, in the past, the idea of a subway to Euston was difficult - there was a sewer in the way - but what I couldn't find any explanation for, other than cost, was the absence of an exit from the eastern end of the platforms (at the very least from the outer rail). Any views?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 16:34:35 GMT
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Post by trt on Nov 17, 2013 17:49:23 GMT
I quite like it. Dingy and old fashioned. Very atmospheric.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 18:43:46 GMT
Ok, so railway enthusiasts love grime, but to be honest it's a miserable place, and not a good welcome to London. The tile colours are harsh and glaring, and the tiles themselves are in dire need of replacement. It's never going to recover from the loss of its brick-arched roof, and whichever colour you paint those girders, they'll end up black again before long, so whatever is done will be little more than an exercise in turd-polishing. Of course, with the current fashions, it'll probably end up looking like Westminster, where clinical brutality is the order of the day (although that will match the new surface building). A lost cause!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 22:22:44 GMT
And will the name Euston Square be abandoned in favour of simply Euston? I do hope they change the name to simply Euston after the rebuild and the joining of the two stations. It's about time Euston got connected to the SSR and naming the whole Underground station 'Euston' while they're at it makes perfect sense. They will need to change the maps anyway to show the new interchange between SSR, Victoria and Northern. Using one name will make navigating a lot easier for people unfamiliar with peculiar situations of the past, especially when Euston will get to handle so many extra passengers with HS2. |
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Post by railtechnician on Nov 18, 2013 9:37:13 GMT
Euston Square really is horrible, has the ambience of a public toilet. I quite like the older tiling of sky blue bordered with orange and dark blue. Its distinctive, and far more subtle than any later scheme using those colours would be. However, its now well and truely knackered, with a mismatch of the exact shade of sky blue tiles, chips, cracks, holes and marks. The pale blue scheme on the platforms is particularly dated and dreary now, suffering from multiple not-quite-the-same shades badly. The use of square tiles without staggering gives a cheap feel compared to the bonding used on the older tilework. And the unlit, possibly black roof/girders give it quite an opressive feel. Hopefully as said above HS2 will be the catalyst to start again and put something a bit less dated and mroe cheerful in. What did it look like before the blue square tiles on the platform? Sky blue tiles? My recollection of Euston Square is white tiled stairwells with orange frieze edging and both platforms having the walls covered with enamelled panels and station name/roundel panels along the frieze, Great Portland Street and Liverpool Street had the same treatment at the time as I recall as did some of the District stations before upgrade. In the late 1970s and early 1980s some modernisation took place which resulted in Victoria line square light blue tiling appearing in the ticket hall and at the east end of the platforms around the relay rooms. The reason the square tiles are not staggered becomes obvious when you see how they are installed, a sheet at a time in panels of various rectangular sizes. I recall watching the red fleet line tiles being laid onto the freshly skimmed expanded metal lathe on the Bakerloo and Jubilee platforms at Baker Street in 1978 in exactly that way. It makes tiling fast on a nicely skimmed surface but is subject to deterioration over time with some tiles simply falling off the wall as seen at just about every Victoria line station over the decades. When originally built I believe Euston Square platforms were in plain brick. I did many jobs there over the years and always found it to be one of the dingiest stations on the system and one of the most difficult to work at from an installation standpoint with its low ticket hall ceilings, lack of proper cable routes above track level etc. |
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