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Post by metrailway on Aug 23, 2013 0:18:12 GMT
I've been reading the 'Railway Times' July 1910 online and in an article bemoaning the lack of through trains across London, there is the mention of Metropolitan excursion trains from Buckinghamshire to the south east and south coast via the South Eastern and Chatham Companies railways.
Just wondered where did these trains start from and what were the destinations available for the summer Metropolitan traveller? When did these excursion trains stop running?
Please feel free to post Met excursions from other time periods as well.
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 23, 2013 8:05:45 GMT
They probably used the East London Line, either via Liverpool Street/Shoreditch or more likely via Whitechapel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 18:46:56 GMT
They would have used the St Mary's curve (bypassing Whitechapel). According to London's Termini (Alan A. Jackson), the through connection at Liverpool Street was last used in 1904; it wouldn't have been used for a Metropolitan/SE&C excursion as that would have involved an additional railway company. Another possibility might have been via Snow Hill, but, given that the South Eastern had been part of Sir Edward Watkin's empire, the East London line route would have been the established route for such trains.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2013 21:05:58 GMT
It is worth pointing out that the passenger traffic on the East London to Liverpool Street was handled by the LB&SCR and the freight by the GER.
The SER had a notoriously hostile relationship with the Brighton Line and a not much better one with the LC&DR. Given that the SER was at least a Watkin company, it seems more probable that the Snow Hill route via Farringdon would have been used in preference to the ELL.
The dearth of cross-London trains was possibly to do with working train movements into intensive timetables and drivers who were not familiar with a particular route. There had been a spate of collisions in the 1860s caused by junctions being signalled by two or three separate companies.
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