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Post by londonstuff on Aug 14, 2013 19:53:25 GMT
Apparently a '73 stock made its way all the way to Harrow on the Hill today. Does anyone know of the existence of any photos?
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Post by graeme186 on Aug 14, 2013 20:46:47 GMT
Apparently a '73 stock made its way all the way to Harrow on the Hill today. Does anyone know of the existence of any photos? What I can advise is that as I was running SB into Harrow at 1035 on an Up Chesham, the Picc train was running into the flyunder on its return to Rayners Lane. Looked like it had reversed in Platform 5.
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Post by Chris M on Aug 14, 2013 21:04:43 GMT
When was the last time that happened?
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Post by superteacher on Aug 15, 2013 22:00:25 GMT
I wonder if it's more or less common than D stocks taking the wrong road at Hanger Lane junction and going to South Harrow? Or any other wrong stick moves across the network?
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Post by Chris M on Aug 15, 2013 22:14:18 GMT
I remember from a previous thread here that going straight on when you should have turned off is more common than turning when you shouldn't. I also remember Dave saying that there was anecdotal evidence that trains from one particular origin (a depot?) were more likely to be offered a wrong stick at Hanger Lane.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 7:46:02 GMT
When was the last time that happened? A few months ago one went to Harrow and back when there was a signals failure at Rayners Lane. Can't remember exact date.
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Post by rsdworker on Aug 16, 2013 13:38:20 GMT
so its was in service (passengers in) or out of service?
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Post by towerman on Aug 16, 2013 14:59:55 GMT
In the 70s during disruption on the main line Met it wasn't uncommon for a C stock to be diverted from the Cicle to the main line,remember seeing one going to Amersham once.In those days Neasden,Uxbridge & Ricky drivers were C stock trained.
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Post by rsdworker on Aug 16, 2013 15:55:28 GMT
In the 70s during disruption on the main line Met it wasn't uncommon for a C stock to be diverted from the Cicle to the main line,remember seeing one going to Amersham once.In those days Neasden,Uxbridge & Ricky drivers were C stock trained. today is S stock - sometimes often you see S7 running around on met main line
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Post by manorborn on Aug 16, 2013 16:00:17 GMT
today is S stock - sometimes often you see S7 running around on met main line speaking of which, I've seen a train on one of the outside tracks in the Neasden depot a couple of times recently with Parsons Green as its destination. Looks really odd (to me as a passenger, that is)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 17:12:38 GMT
so its was in service (passengers in) or out of service? The occasion I mentioned it was out of service.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2013 19:36:54 GMT
In the 70s during disruption on the main line Met it wasn't uncommon for a C stock to be diverted from the Cicle to the main line,remember seeing one going to Amersham once.In those days Neasden,Uxbridge & Ricky drivers were C stock trained. Indeed. I travelled on a C-stock unit headed for Watford as far as Harrow a couple of decades ago. Very strange, a few people studying the maps vainly trying to find Wembley Park.
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Post by metrider on Aug 17, 2013 17:45:41 GMT
today is S stock - sometimes often you see S7 running around on met main line speaking of which, I've seen a train on one of the outside tracks in the Neasden depot a couple of times recently with Parsons Green as its destination. Looks really odd (to me as a passenger, that is) (I'm a passenger too - so no inside info, other than what I've read here)Bear in mind thet S7 will commonly visit Neasden and Wembley, Indeed the sidings at Wembley Park have recently been modified especially to hold S7s and you commonly see them parked there now.. I suppose there would also be maintenance reasons for them to visit Neasden depot (?). S7s will also be delivered via Neasden. What did amuse me was a few weeks back, seeing an S8 in Baker Street plat 4 with the display showing "Circle line / Hammersmith"...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 18:36:37 GMT
so its was in service (passengers in) or out of service? My guess is that it was in passenger service, as it had already left Rayners Lane (probably not far out, but if it was sitting on points it wouldn't have been a good move to reverse it back to the station!) but had to wait for a pilotman/person to escort the Picc T/Op to Harrow. Whether the passengers were detrained at West Harrow or Harrow-on-the-Hill I don't know but it was certainly empty back from Harrow to Rayners Lane. It was a "wrong signal lowered" (old technical term when there were semaphores) [by the signalman/person/operator] and accepted [by the Train Operator]. Variety in a day's work, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 20:42:30 GMT
As the passengers would have had to be returned to Rayners Lane to continue on the Piccadilly, detraining at West Harrow would have been awkward unless the gates were opened to allow them to cross to the opposite platform without touching in and out.
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Post by rsdworker on Aug 18, 2013 23:57:05 GMT
or they taken to station where secure interchange like harrow on hill which has that because other poster said train was empty when he saw leaving harrow on hill station - i think people detrained at that station where full ticketing facilities avaiable at west harrow - the westbound has no ticket barriers
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Post by andypurk on Aug 19, 2013 9:43:45 GMT
As the passengers would have had to be returned to Rayners Lane to continue on the Piccadilly, detraining at West Harrow would have been awkward unless the gates were opened to allow them to cross to the opposite platform without touching in and out. As the ticket office is only open for less than three hours in the morning, the barriers on the eastbound side are normally open (the ticket office closes at 10.00). The westbound side only has a couple of Oyster readers at the bottom of the stairs.
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Post by rheostar on Aug 19, 2013 17:44:29 GMT
Think of it as the Piccadilly line supplementing the Met service. :-)
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