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Post by su31 on Jun 10, 2013 22:10:53 GMT
A few things I've noticed having now travelled the whole H&C on an S7:
1 - The DVA wasn't updated to add the 'interchange' to the Central line at Wood Lane --> White City - why is this the case? I thought they would've taken the opportunity for updates like this
2 - Quite a few stations' announcements are supplemented by a male voice "Please mind the gap between the train and the platform" - was this missed-off the original recording?
3 - When the Train Op selects the "We are being held at a red signal..." announcement, there is an apology for any delay or inconvenience - which there isn't on any other line - why?!
Thanks!
Rob
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Post by metman on Jun 10, 2013 22:19:02 GMT
2- The male (different therefore) voice was added to make people take note. The same thing happens on the Met!
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Post by su31 on Jun 10, 2013 22:28:12 GMT
A-ha! makes sense... unusual for LU to think of such things ;-)
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Post by Alight on Jun 10, 2013 23:30:19 GMT
1 - LUL are quite inconsistent when announcing 'nearby' stations. Euston Square makes customers aware of mainline services from Euston but indeed there is no mention of the Wood Lane / White City proximity. Similarly the Central line doesn't mention London Overground at Shepherd's Bush but this is mainly due to the 92TS having an archaic DVA system that is difficult to update.
2 - metman is right. The male voice is Phil Sayer who can be heard announcing at many stations across the National Rail network including London Waterloo.
3 - The S stock uses the latest approved messages in relation to 'red signal'. Other lines vary in when the systems were installed. For example the Piccadilly line system dates back to 2006 and the phrase used is "this train will be held here for a short time to even out the gaps in the service."
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Post by class411 on Jun 11, 2013 6:25:09 GMT
Wood lane and White City are not really an 'interchange'.
They are completely separate stations with a 1/4 kilometre walk between them.
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Post by superteacher on Jun 11, 2013 22:15:22 GMT
Wood lane and White City are not really an 'interchange'. They are completely separate stations with a 1/4 kilometre walk between them. It still counts as an out of station interchange though. There are plenty of other such examples which are announced on DVA's. As was mentioned earlier, the 1992 stock DVA Is very hard to update - it's only been done once! Not sure why the S stock doesn't mention it though. Is there a clear policy of which ones are announced? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2013 8:46:40 GMT
There's at least one Central line driver I have quite consistently on the same train in the mornings who always announces the interchange at White City.
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Post by su31 on Jun 13, 2013 6:49:48 GMT
Wood lane and White City are not really an 'interchange'. They are completely separate stations with a 1/4 kilometre walk between them. It still counts as an out of station interchange though. There are plenty of other such examples which are announced on DVA's. As was mentioned earlier, the 1992 stock DVA Is very hard to update - it's only been done once! Not sure why the S stock doesn't mention it though. Is there a clear policy of which ones are announced? As far as the in-car line diagrams go, both lines show the 'interchange' and in the same way that Euston Square/Euston is, it should be on the DVA. |
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Post by Deep Level on Jun 14, 2013 9:06:15 GMT
There doesn't appear to be a clear policy on this, as someone said earlier at Euston Square trains announce interchange for Mainline services from Euston but fail to mention any London Underground Lines or London Overground from Euston.
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Post by Alight on Jun 14, 2013 10:29:47 GMT
Sorry I probably wasn't being very clear using the term 'mainline' - Euston Square announces both National rail and London Overground. However, you're correct in saying that London Underground lines from Euston aren't mentioned.
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Post by domh245 on Jun 14, 2013 18:26:46 GMT
Going a bit off topic, but I can only hope that when the S7s run as far as Wimbledon, they will get the announcements right. Currently on the C stock, they play the "This is Wimbledon" announcement on the approach, and declare that "The next station is Wimbledon" when the doors open in the platform. It's just one of those little things that really annoy me
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Post by causton on Jun 15, 2013 0:06:37 GMT
Going a bit off topic, but I can only hope that when the S7s run as far as Wimbledon, they will get the announcements right. Currently on the C stock, they play the "This is Wimbledon" announcement on the approach, and declare that "The next station is Wimbledon" when the doors open in the platform. It's just one of those little things that really annoy me I thought that was just the train I was on! The only thing that bugs me about the S stock DVA is the lack of a gap before the line name Hammersmith & City, so it sounds like the announcer says "This is ahammersmith & City line train to..."! Noticed it from the first ride I took on the H&C, but now I've started to think the same about when it says Metropolitan! I think it's growing to be something just in my head now  |
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Post by t697 on Jun 22, 2013 20:43:30 GMT
Going a bit off topic, but I can only hope that when the S7s run as far as Wimbledon, they will get the announcements right. Currently on the C stock, they play the "This is Wimbledon" announcement on the approach, and declare that "The next station is Wimbledon" when the doors open in the platform. It's just one of those little things that really annoy me Wimbledon announcements on S stock will be the same format as other terminating stations. Try one and see what you think! Widening the thread still further, I see I was wrong in a related thread about a year ago: S stock does in fact have Ickenham as a destination (from Uxbridge). So there's another odd service that can be run with full messaging. |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Aug 3, 2013 22:35:33 GMT
Going a bit off topic, but I can only hope that when the S7s run as far as Wimbledon, they will get the announcements right. Currently on the C stock, they play the "This is Wimbledon" announcement on the approach, and declare that "The next station is Wimbledon" when the doors open in the platform. It's just one of those little things that really annoy me Wimbledon announcements on S stock will be the same format as other terminating stations. Try one and see what you think! Widening the thread still further, I see I was wrong in a related thread about a year ago: S stock does in fact have Ickenham as a destination (from Uxbridge). So there's another odd service that can be run with full messaging. Can any station on the SSL network be used/shown as a destination on S Stock? |
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Post by superteacher on Aug 3, 2013 22:47:20 GMT
Wimbledon announcements on S stock will be the same format as other terminating stations. Try one and see what you think! Widening the thread still further, I see I was wrong in a related thread about a year ago: S stock does in fact have Ickenham as a destination (from Uxbridge). So there's another odd service that can be run with full messaging. Can any station on the SSL network be used/shown as a destination on S Stock? No, I don't believe so. Only the D and 73 stocks have the facility to show any station on their given lines. Interestingly. The last set of blinds on the 1967 stock contained every station on the Vic, but the 2009 stock doesn't have this option on its DVA. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2013 23:31:07 GMT
So is that why when the H&C line is running to Aldgate it's shown as Circle line on S7s?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 4, 2013 5:49:27 GMT
Only the D and 73 stocks have the facility to show any station on their given lines. D Stock are naturally unable to show stations beyond High Street Kensington and it is not possible to program illogical routes, such as Richmond-Wimbledon, Upminster-High Street, Olympia-Ealing but Southfields-Elm Park is acceptable! |
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