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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2013 11:24:05 GMT
Some things make me proud to have worked on the railways and the good quality PA announcement made by the driver this morning is one of those! Given its rare perhaps for staff to be commended (and credit where its due etc), I have sent this e-mail to a contact in London Underground to pass to the Met line:
Can you just pass on my comments on the good quality PA announcement made by the driver this morning.
I boarded a Southbound S stock train at Rayners Lane this morning at about 07:30 (car no 23053 – did not get the set number). I noticed that unusually the destination was set to Harrow on the Hill. On departure from West Harrow the driver made an extremely impressive announcement on the reasons for the early termination of the train. He spoke clearly in a professional and non-condescending way.
He explained in clear non railway jargon the reason why the train was being withdrawn from service. (I understand from the announcement that he had made similar previous announcements at other stations). Apparently someone had been unwell and had possibly been sick (although this was not mentioned directly but he was able to explain that point without unduly alarming any passengers).
He also explained the steps that he and the line controller had taken to keep the train in service. Apparently they had tried to find another train from Uxbridge sidings* but had been unable to sort a train in time. He therefore took the decision to keep the train in service to a point where passengers could detrained* onto another train.
Throughout the message he apologised profusely for the inconvenience.
The efforts made by this driver and his the quality of the announcement clearly left the customers with a positive view about London Underground and its staff. Its good to see staff considering Customer Service in such a positive way. It would have been very easy for the driver to take the train out of service to Neasden depot for cleaning. But clearly this driver & the line controller put the customers first when deciding what action to take.
Could you pass on my thanks to the Met line management and to the driver for the impressive Quality of service this morning.
Dean Sullivan Managing Director Sullivan Buses.
* = my use of railway jargon there!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 23:23:15 GMT
This reminded me of an announcement I heard on the met at some point this week. The train indicator was displaying the destination as Baker Street, but the driver came on over the PA system and clarified that the actual destination was Aldgate. Then he said something about it being a million pound train and being "held together with blu-tack" or words to that effect, resulting in him being unable to change the destination of the train using the automated system. The LED displays and recorded announcements later corrected themselves, but clearly the driver wasn't happy with them. Can anyone confirm if S-stock is indeed held together with blu-tack?
I believe the unit in question was:
Unit number redacted by Londonstuff
Regards,
TSM
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Post by castlebar on May 11, 2013 6:33:27 GMT
@ swiss..,
Your posting helps identify the driver. Telling pax the train is held together with blu-tak might lead to a disciplinary or at least "getting his card marked" Not a good idea.
Especially as you have quoted a unit number.
You KNOW stock is not held together with blu-tak. Think of the possible consequences of your posting.
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Post by class411 on May 11, 2013 7:02:33 GMT
You KNOW stock is not held together with blu-tak. Think of the possible consequences of your posting. Yes. You might almost imagine the post was made with the intention of landing the driver in it given the amount of quite unnecessary detail given.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2013 8:59:54 GMT
You KNOW stock is not held together with blu-tak. Think of the possible consequences of your posting. Yes. You might almost imagine the post was made with the intention of landing the driver in it given the amount of quite unnecessary detail given. My sincere apologies, that was not my intention I can assure you.
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Post by manorborn on May 11, 2013 12:08:43 GMT
I once heard a driver at Harrow apologise for some confusion about his train's destination with the phrase "that work of fiction known as the timetable".
Would that get his card marked or would this be seen as fair comment from someone who ought to know?
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Post by Fahad on May 11, 2013 16:54:41 GMT
Some things make me proud to have worked on the railways and the good quality PA announcement made by the driver this morning is one of those! Given its rare perhaps for staff to be commended (and credit where its due etc), I have sent this e-mail to a contact in London Underground to pass to the Met line:
Can you just pass on my comments on the good quality PA announcement made by the driver this morning. I boarded a Southbound S stock train at Rayners Lane this morning at about 07:30 (car no 23053 – did not get the set number). I noticed that unusually the destination was set to Harrow on the Hill. On departure from West Harrow the driver made an extremely impressive announcement on the reasons for the early termination of the train. He spoke clearly in a professional and non-condescending way. He explained in clear non railway jargon the reason why the train was being withdrawn from service. (I understand from the announcement that he had made similar previous announcements at other stations). Apparently someone had been unwell and had possibly been sick (although this was not mentioned directly but he was able to explain that point without unduly alarming any passengers). He also explained the steps that he and the line controller had taken to keep the train in service. Apparently they had tried to find another train from Uxbridge sidings* but had been unable to sort a train in time. He therefore took the decision to keep the train in service to a point where passengers could detrained* onto another train. Throughout the message he apologised profusely for the inconvenience. The efforts made by this driver and his the quality of the announcement clearly left the customers with a positive view about London Underground and its staff. Its good to see staff considering Customer Service in such a positive way. It would have been very easy for the driver to take the train out of service to Neasden depot for cleaning. But clearly this driver & the line controller put the customers first when deciding what action to take. Could you pass on my thanks to the Met line management and to the driver for the impressive Quality of service this morning. Dean Sullivan Managing Director Sullivan Buses. * = my use of railway jargon there! I wonder if there is any possibility that the driver/controller would be disciplined for not following procedure and removing the train from service as soon as possible
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Post by seaeagle on May 11, 2013 21:10:19 GMT
I once heard a driver at Harrow apologise for some confusion about his train's destination with the phrase "that work of fiction known as the timetable". Would that get his card marked or would this be seen as fair comment from someone who ought to know? Over the years I think nearly every driver has made comments over the P.A that have been shall we say a bit near the mark, I think it's a case of who is listening on the train at the time. As an example, I once used a four letter word starting with f over the P.A, no one said a word, yet once when the current got turned off, I made a bit of a joke out of it, "sorry for the delay, the electric has gone off and someone is just running down to the bank to get some 50 pence pieces for the meter" and I got taken off and was given a verbal warning!
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2013 9:46:40 GMT
I wonder if there is any possibility that the driver/controller would be disciplined for not following procedure and removing the train from service as soon as possible Hopefully not! The point I was making was mainly about customer service. As I said the easy solution would have been to put the train away. As a result customers would have been disadvantaged in the height of the morning peak. This driver and the controller were clearly thinking ‘out of the box’. In my view the rule book exists as a basic tool to running the railway. It cannot cope with every eventuality on such a diverse railway. Perhaps things got a bit out of hand in the 90s with the phone book size rule books that were introduced after the Kings Cross fire. Problem with these descriptive procedures is that staff often failed to read them. Hands up – I never did either! Thankfully LUL have moved away from these. The trouble is the rule book cannot be there for every eventuality and perhaps in some cases the rule may no longer be entirely appropriate. In some cases the old rule book referred to actions such as “come to a complete understanding with (others) etc”. This means that within parameters staff can work to the best interests of the railway, having discussed how a particular procure is to be carried out. I think we should expect that experienced railwaymen (and women) can make a reasoned judgement. If they believe that customer interests would have been largely prejudiced by safety or other reasons such as, perhaps creating an unacceptable delay. Withdrawing the train might have been at least one solution – But its not the only solution. Obviously with an A stock you could have cut a car out. But with an S stock that’s probably a lot more difficult. This in itself shows the efforts this driver and those involved went to. Unlike the other instance referred to, the drivers tone in this case clearly implied that he and his colleagues had tried their level best. At no time did he make any negative remarks about the customer who was ill, the train or his colleagues. Perhaps there might have been ample opportunity to do so. The end result were customers who were ‘on-side’. I happened to hear one customer on her mobile phone discussing the incident. At no time did she refer to LUL in a negative way, such as “the trains late again”. Clearly these things have a wider impact – often beyond the initial incident. With my old hat on – there are many, many members of LUL staff who go above and beyond reasonable expectations because they want to see the railway running at its best. In this instance I judged that to be the case. And in fairness I thought their actions were commendable. I don’t think any transport operator could ask for more! Hence the reason why I pointed this out. So as a postscript I have already received a positive reply from Angela Back the Metropolitan Lines General Manager. And it seems the Met line agrees! Dean
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Post by bassmike on May 12, 2013 13:10:03 GMT
Why dont you all get a life?
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Post by bassmike on May 12, 2013 13:10:41 GMT
[s. except D.Sullivan of course
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Post by rincew1nd on May 12, 2013 17:43:08 GMT
By way of contrast, today I had the joy of traveling on a Manchester Metrolink tram bound for Old Trafford full of fanatics. As part of the onboard entertainment they provided they were banging on a set of doors, three stops before Old Trafford said set of doors failed to close.
Twenty minutes later I heard a platform announcement saying that the "vehicle" was going out of service and we should get off. Now I understand that the driver was probably drastically trying to get the thing moving again, conscious of the whole line blocking back into the centre of town; but if it had been handled as above then I can't help but think that the fanatics who missed the start of the match would have been much happier.
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Post by domh245 on May 12, 2013 19:01:13 GMT
That reminds me off a similar experience of mine. I was on a C stock coming back from school to Wimbledon, and some schoolchildren were leaning on the doors, so that the pilot light kept cutting out, and the train had very poor infrequent acceleration. At Southfields the driver announced "The train is now going to come out of service because of door problems" (or something to that effect). As everyone piled out onto the platform (the next train within view) the driver suddenly announces "This train will now be re-entering service, apparently there was a bag stuck in the door" and thusly everyone piled back in, and the train flew along to Wimbledon. At Wimbledon some punters were all stood chatting with the driver congratulating him on his smooth handling of the situation
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