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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 20:46:54 GMT
I'm a big fan of the original Microsoft Train Simulator despite it's graphical limitations and I think it's a shame (if understandable) that new routes seem to have dried up for it now. Maybe the release of the full version of Open Rails will change that.
I've not tried TS2012 and I'm rather put off by stories suggesting that there are limitations to what independent route builders can do and sell on the platform. With a new version every year there's surely the risk that home-made routes and stock will not work in 12 months time, though perhaps someone with more experience could correct me.
Anyway, having enjoyed the MSTS version of the U-bahn and the recent superb (if limited) Circle Line sim it got me wondering if there will ever be a Metroland route as an add-on to one of the big simulators. It would be a great route encompansing the Metropolitan and Marylebone lines taking you from Aldgate to Aylesbury and possibly Stanmore, Watford and Uxbridge. The possibilities for different eras from 1930's steam, electric locos, T, R, A and S stocks, 1938/1972/1983/1986/1996 stocks and of course 1st and 2nd gen DMUs. I think it would be a brilliant sim. The range of activities relevant to the line would also make it a very interesting game.
Obviously I'd prefer it on MSTS/Open Rails as I think the modern Train Simulator people would put out a tiny section of the route with various expensive add-ons.
I'd be interested in other people's opinions.
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Post by domh245 on Mar 12, 2013 20:58:45 GMT
It would be nice, but as someone "higher up" could confirm, this area is very complicated. It would be very difficult to do especially with a limited simulator such as MSTS. I personally am in favour of a developer releasing a HUGE series of simulators covering all the different lines, which can be installed together, allowing fo rinter line working. That would be something I would pay for, the huge number of workings you could do with all the packs installed, you could go on a huge tour of the UndergrounD lines with the 38ts [/Fantasy]
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2013 22:17:49 GMT
I reckon about £60 - £100 for a Region. London, Network South East, Eastern etc. Even a UK network one for, say £200.
We're in dreamland here though. Small sections like Railworks' York to Newcastle are the order of the day with £10 per upgrade kit. It's such a shame that Microsoft shelved their MSTS 2 project a couple of years back. It promised so much.
We'll have to see what Open Rails brings. If it remains a community platform where people can get together and build the network themselves (a virtual model railway club if you like) and trade home-made stock packs then it could be a huge leap forward for virtual railway fans.
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Post by domh245 on Mar 12, 2013 22:49:35 GMT
What you've suggested is quite a good idea, but I was thinking just for LU. one for the Victoria, One for the Inner Circle, One for the District line (requires Inner Circle), London Overground. All of course with TfL's blessing
I'm pretty sure that Kuju (who were developing MSTS2 for Microsoft) simply took it away and rebranded it Rail Simulator. At least according to some of the websites I've seen on the Internet. But yes, it all does depend now on Open Rails, especially as BVE is quite limiting with routes, not to mention near impossible to create with!
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Post by metrailway on Mar 13, 2013 2:05:21 GMT
There is one person who is currently building the Chiltern Lines including the Metropolitan from Baker Street for MSTS. It is based in the 50s and 60s. He has been working on it for nearly 6 years and it still has a long way to go. Route building in MSTS is very difficult - I know as I tried to build the Met many moons ago. You need a lot of dedication, skill and a lot of time!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 11:58:01 GMT
Hi all, There are already many LU routes available for BVE4 / OpenBVE, which like the simulators are completely free. I have been working on updating both the Circle and District Lines, these routes together with the Bakerloo, (old) East London, Piccadilly and the Northern Line which is used in the simulators in LT's own museum. Others available are Jubilee, W&C, Victoria and even the DLR. See districtdavesforum.co.uk/thread/21095/lu-bve-updates thread. Just Google some videos of the lines, and take look for yourself, eg . This is one being currently developed of the Central Line. Bye for now, Stephen. |
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Post by londonboi1985 on Mar 13, 2013 17:04:48 GMT
wow that central line route looks fantastic
i had bve installed on my old pc which sadly blew up and got chucked however i find it difficult to down load bve now as all the routes have gone i had like the old tube lines bakerloo northern etc etc
where can i download these again and where can i download bve program for them
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2013 19:15:14 GMT
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Post by londonboi1985 on Mar 29, 2013 15:01:12 GMT
i cant get it to work i downloaded bve 4 then click the icon on the desktop it crasehs i get the error "cannot start ............... then just closes down and nothing any ideas
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Post by domh245 on Mar 29, 2013 15:42:21 GMT
If you are trying to run BVE4 in windows 7 forget it, it simply will not run. I would advise you just install openBVE as it is:-
a) Newer and compatible with Windows 7
& b) It can run all of the BVE 4 stuff and it looks better, as well as all the OpenBVE stuff
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Post by londonboi1985 on Mar 29, 2013 18:00:05 GMT
this is under vista not 7 i cannot stand windows 7 far top many problems and bugs for me in my eyes
still cant get it working though on vista
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Post by londonboi1985 on Mar 29, 2013 19:52:03 GMT
tried again all i get on load up is a big white screen with no graphics?
any ideas
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