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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 20:34:37 GMT
I was driving on the northern line when the 95 stock was introduced, a stock which is now performing very well though it must be due an overhaul after 15 years in service. At the time it was rubbished, I struggle to find anything on the forum said about S stock which was not said about 95's.
In fact the S stock has had a much smoother and more reliable introduction to service than the 95 stock (Northern Line) did.
I was wondering about other stock introductions and if there has ever been one where new trains have immediatly been praised and loved by everyone.
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Post by metman on Mar 4, 2013 20:39:20 GMT
Its hard to say. Perhaps the 1996 stock was welcomed over the 1983 stock?
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Post by seaeagle on Mar 5, 2013 19:39:03 GMT
All stock when first introduced is going to have unforseen problems, with the 09 stock on the Vic, the sensitive edge was a nightmare, but generally outside of that, the train was well recived. Having spent the last few weeks going up and down the Met in the cabs, (and driving) S stock, I find them quite good, the TCMS is better than the 09 stock, however speaking to drivers, they've beening moaning about things like no volume control on the radio, no opening windows in the cab, the air con system that you can't turn off to name a few.
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Post by metman on Mar 5, 2013 21:55:13 GMT
.....and the whistling of the air as it finds the gaps in the cab to body joints! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 23:17:16 GMT
.....and the whistling of the air as it finds the gaps in the cab to body joints! ;D LOL, you need to say that a bit louder.  |
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Post by plasmid on Mar 7, 2013 0:26:52 GMT
92ts has to be the worst for those sorts of gaps. I'm talking about inches on some of them.
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Post by Ben on Mar 7, 2013 1:14:14 GMT
Indeed. One wonders if all the mods on them and the 'refresh', and new windows, car ends, posibly motors in the future, bogies, etc is just throwing good money after bad?
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Post by metrailway on Mar 7, 2013 16:42:11 GMT
Not LU but the Class 378s were generally welcomed on LO routes when they replaced the 313s and 508s.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2013 17:04:51 GMT
Not LU but the Class 378s were generally welcomed on LO routes when they replaced the 313s and 508s. I think so too. Have you driven one? |
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Post by metrailway on Mar 7, 2013 23:00:33 GMT
Not LU but the Class 378s were generally welcomed on LO routes when they replaced the 313s and 508s. I think so too. Have you driven one? No I haven't - sadly I don't work on the railway. I'm just mere passenger on the Watford DC Lines.  Another non LU example was the 165s replacing the 115s on the Chiltern Lines. Usage on the lines shot up when the Turbos were introduced. I imagine the 1938TS was welcomed by passengers when introduced? |
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Post by maxym on Mar 8, 2013 14:32:17 GMT
I think so too. Have you driven one? No I imagine the 1938TS was welcomed by passengers when introduced? It would be welcomed by me if it were re-introduced. |
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Post by towerman on Mar 8, 2013 16:11:25 GMT
Not LU but the Class 378s were generally welcomed on LO routes when they replaced the 313s and 508s. Hate to upset you,was reading in one of the railway mags yesterday that TfL was considering leasing some 508's for the Overground. |
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Post by Ben on Mar 8, 2013 17:18:05 GMT
They'd be better off putting S stock on the ELL and SLL, simply as they have the type already.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2013 12:12:09 GMT
I don't think S stock are built to Network rail standards.
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Post by metman on Mar 9, 2013 20:47:08 GMT
Not LU but the Class 378s were generally welcomed on LO routes when they replaced the 313s and 508s. Hate to upset you,was reading in one of the railway mags yesterday that TfL was considering leasing some 508's for the Overground. I'd love that! All stations to Euston for me! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 13:16:26 GMT
I think so too. Have you driven one? No I haven't - sadly I don't work on the railway. I'm just mere passenger on the Watford DC Lines. Another non LU example was the 165s replacing the 115s on the Chiltern Lines. Usage on the lines shot up when the Turbos were introduced. I imagine the 1938TS was welcomed by passengers when introduced? Most certainly was! Those infernal central door jambs on the 1927 stock were invariably in the way. And the motors took up a good third of each of the driving cars. Apart from that, they were quite comfortable. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2013 13:25:55 GMT
Not LU but the Class 378s were generally welcomed on LO routes when they replaced the 313s and 508s. Hate to upset you,was reading in one of the railway mags yesterday that TfL was considering leasing some 508's for the Overground. They should lease some 150s to run more one-way crowd-busters between Woodgrange Park and Hampstead Heath (or Willesden Junction LL). That would go some way to relieving the Goblin problem without major investment. |
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Post by christopher125 on Mar 10, 2013 21:41:33 GMT
Hate to upset you,was reading in one of the railway mags yesterday that TfL was considering leasing some 508's for the Overground. They should lease some 150s to run more one-way crowd-busters between Woodgrange Park and Hampstead Heath (or Willesden Junction LL). That would go some way to relieving the Goblin problem without major investment. If there were any spare 150's, or indeed any other suitable DMU, i'm sure they would have - unfortunately they are all spoken for. As for the 508's, that's the first time i've heard of any suggestion that LO are considering them which really doesn't make much sense when TfL have already budgeted for increasing the capacity and size of the 378 fleet. Presumably the story comes from the GOBLIN user group BGOLUG who have been suggesting using older rolling stock. Chris |
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