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Post by solidbond on Jan 19, 2007 21:06:36 GMT
Latest news in today, is that Microsoft are going to produce a new Train Simulator, but it will be a completely new design, based on Flight Simulator X technology, and therefore will almost certainly NOT be backwards compatible. News available on the Microsoft site
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2007 22:13:26 GMT
It's actually quite likely to be partially backwards compatible due to the various formats.
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Post by Chris M on Jan 19, 2007 22:28:04 GMT
(Word of warning for Firefox users, typical Micro$haft, the page doesn't display properly in Firefox ) Just install the "user agent switcher" extension and get your browser to tell M$ it is IE and it will work
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2007 0:18:22 GMT
I do hope this new sim will be better than the old one. I loved driving the Scotsman on the old one but despite doing only 2/3 the speed limits, no hard acceleration or braking, the damn coupler kept breaking!
Hope we get more accuracy of scenery as well - the Tokyo-Hakone line was atrocious, with super-long platforms or platforms not long enough (and I've been on it many times in RL) and the adventures being next to useless - why would they neglect to include the full length of the express run?
Last comment, I hope they adapt the interface from Flightsim. Flightsim is far more flexible in terms of saving files or creating new flights (or in the case of trainsim, trip? ;D)
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Post by thomas on Feb 5, 2007 1:18:08 GMT
I have found freeware train sims like "BVE" to be much more attractive than the prestigious MSTS. I hope they will at least come up with a functioning ATP feature this time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2007 1:40:27 GMT
The best thing I find on BVE is the sounds. The good freeware developers do such a good job with them! Default sounds on MSTS was rather bland...
I'm probably the minority who prefers BVE2 over 4...
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Post by thomas on Feb 5, 2007 21:16:56 GMT
I'm probably the minority who prefers BVE2 over 4... The sounds were definately more realistic in BVE2! The sounds on the unrefurbished 1967 stock available on www.trainsimcentral.co.uk are a masterpiece.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2007 22:37:09 GMT
I personally prefer the game features. BVE4 saw the addition of the clock activated by F2 which was awesome.
However, we lost the comfort meter, the G-force and stop-mark meter. One cannot "feel" the train behind the PC, let alone turn their heads to look the stop mark from the train cab so I really miss those features (wait I don't, because I hardly ever play BVE4! ;D)
I haven't tried many routes in BVE4 as a result but I have found the Northern Line 95TS* sounds to be rather bland. My BVE2 route sounds are better! However, on the preview video of the Jubilee for BVE4, they seem to have captured the "gearchange" sounds of the 96TS* rather well.
*Don't bash me if they're the wrong way round!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 8:35:15 GMT
With BVE4 though, it's much more realistic than BVE2, as obviously you wouldn't have a G-Force meter, comfort meter, nor the stop marker on the screen in front of you - you'd peer over to the platform for that! And I know what you mean about the 1995 stock, but that's what it sounds like in real life - so it's an accurate portrayal of it, as bland as it sounds And I, personally actually have found myself turning my head slightly on the Northern Line, as if I'm ''seeing'' the stop mark to my right or left out of the cab windows. Has worked for me. (Please tell me I'm not the only one who does it!! )
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2007 15:58:05 GMT
With BVE4 though, it's much more realistic than BVE2, as obviously you wouldn't have a G-Force meter, comfort meter, nor the stop marker on the screen in front of you - you'd peer over to the platform for that! And I know what you mean about the 1995 stock, but that's what it sounds like in real life - so it's an accurate portrayal of it, as bland as it sounds I have to argue that, you can *feel* the Gs in real life, but not behind the PC, nor can you peer your head at the stop marker and that, the those features in BVE2 effectively provided what you would get in RL, but lost behind the PC. I've found the ELL on BVE4 to be hell when it came to stopping! As for the 1995TS, I've found the high pitched whine missing! I've driven other stock (albeit Japanese) on BVE2 with similar sound characteristics so it is possible to include the initial motor whine at low speed, which then changes into the louder, lower motor sound as the train gathers speed. (By the way, I've turned my head as well on the Northern, trying to gauge how fast I was closing in onto the marker - kills my eyes staring at something 10 pixels wide though ;D)
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Post by Colin D on Feb 8, 2007 18:17:24 GMT
[/quote] I've found the ELL on BVE4 to be hell when it came to stopping! [/quote]
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who has trouble stopping on the ELL, but it is nice to hear the RPA ticking away as the power increases.
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Post by thomas on Feb 8, 2007 20:52:49 GMT
I always thought that these green stop markers with the black arrows on them exist only in BVE. I never saw such a sign in the real world.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2007 20:06:36 GMT
I always thought that these green stop markers with the black arrows on them exist only in BVE. I never saw such a sign in the real world. Those markers on the Northern do exist in real life.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2007 21:46:21 GMT
As Pacific says - those markers do indeed exist on the Northern And I believe that there is no high pitched whine as the 95 pulls away - on the *96* yes, but not the 95 ... that's what I think anyway And with the ELL, you do get used to it eventually. I always usually manage to stop in either B1 or B2, but shove it straight into B5 as soon as I see the platform ahead, 'fanning' the brake in order to get it down to the desired speed
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Post by thomas on Feb 9, 2007 22:07:50 GMT
And I believe that there is no high pitched whine as the 95 pulls away - on the *96* yes, but not the 95 ... that's what I think anyway Which one's the stock where the sound of the electric brake suddenly stops a few seconds before the train comes to a full stop?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2007 1:05:06 GMT
As Pacific says - those markers do indeed exist on the Northern And I believe that there is no high pitched whine as the 95 pulls away - on the *96* yes, but not the 95 ... that's what I think anyway And with the ELL, you do get used to it eventually. I always usually manage to stop in either B1 or B2, but shove it straight into B5 as soon as I see the platform ahead, 'fanning' the brake in order to get it down to the desired speed The high-pitched sound of the 95TS is higher than the 96 and is much more subtle. However, I find it audible enough to mask the low-pitched sound of the motor when accelerating at low speed. You also hear it when the motors are used for braking. The high-pitched sound can be heard. In the low-quality audio on YouTube, it sometimes sounds like screeching!
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