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Post by londonstuff on Feb 20, 2013 15:58:22 GMT
I've just come across this about the SSR resignalling project. I'm surprised that more hasn't been made of it, tbh, considering it says it's been going on since December. Anybody have any more specific details? Clicky.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 23:53:45 GMT
So they're going to use ATC for the new SSR signalling. This'll be interesting, if it ever happens.
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Post by railtechnician on Feb 21, 2013 0:27:01 GMT
LT used to lead the world in this regard. LU has simply forgotten how to get work done without disrupting services unnecessarily but that's what happens when the baby is thrown out with the bathwater as it was in the 1980s.
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Post by Tom on Feb 21, 2013 13:13:28 GMT
I'm not completely sure I agree. Yes, we were very good in this regard. We also had the staff made available to do resource large jobs. Now we often find ourselves having to resource several projects on the same nights with fewer staff. Plus the procedural requirements have changed considerably as well.
That said, LU is constantly benchmarking its performance against other metros, though I find they tend to prefer to be the best of the smaller metros (comparing against the likes of Mdaid, Sao Paulo et al) rather than being fairly avaerage amongst the bigger metros such as Berlin, Moscow and New York.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 18:58:27 GMT
The S stock has been running on the District in the shutdowns recently but we dont have any of the new signalling. And as far as I know where the new signalling will be going in first even that area has not had any of it installed yet. Unless on there test track up north they have a setup to test the trains and signalling?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 10:57:01 GMT
LT used to lead the world in this regard. LU has simply forgotten how to get work done without disrupting services unnecessarily but that's what happens when the baby is thrown out with the bathwater as it was in the 1980s. Paris "metro" ( RATP)could provide some advice as they have completed the conversion of one of the busiest lines (line nmr 1) to fully automation without any significant service interruption!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2013 20:12:57 GMT
LT used to lead the world in this regard. LU has simply forgotten how to get work done without disrupting services unnecessarily but that's what happens when the baby is thrown out with the bathwater as it was in the 1980s. Paris "metro" ( RATP)could provide some advice as they have completed the conversion of one of the busiest lines (line nmr 1) to fully automation without any significant service interruption! Would rather do without that advice thank you very much!
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Post by Tom on Feb 24, 2013 22:27:59 GMT
Paris "metro" ( RATP)could provide some advice as they have completed the conversion of one of the busiest lines (line nmr 1) to fully automation without any significant service interruption! Would rather do without that advice thank you very much! Now that is something I would disagree with 100%! Paris is exactly the sort of size of system LU should be looking at and sharing best practice with in this regard. I for one would be very interested in how their safety assurance culture differs to LU and how things could be made easier.
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Post by abe on Feb 26, 2013 9:17:26 GMT
I quite agree with that last comment. Paris has introduced all sorts of technical innovation on their Metro, some of which is bound to be of use to London. They've achieved a greater number of automated lines than London, and the conversion of an existing line to ATO with platform edge doors is a real achievement. There are some aspects that we can only dream of, such as having a programme of rolling line extension construction, but that is more political and economic. On technology grounds there are no reasons for not talking to them. Was there some particular reason for the original comment ("rather do without that advice")?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2013 9:16:25 GMT
I quite agree with that last comment. Paris has introduced all sorts of technical innovation on their Metro, some of which is bound to be of use to London. They've achieved a greater number of automated lines than London, and the conversion of an existing line to ATO with platform edge doors is a real achievement. There are some aspects that we can only dream of, such as having a programme of rolling line extension construction, but that is more political and economic. On technology grounds there are no reasons for not talking to them. Was there some particular reason for the original comment ("rather do without that advice")? Yes, because it meant exactly what you were saying about driverless and ATO etc.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2013 22:03:08 GMT
The testing in Dercember was very early testing, not really testing the ATC but the sensors that it will use on the train. The main test programme will start mid this year. There is no equipment on the Met line yet, which is where installation will start.
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Post by Ben on Mar 3, 2013 23:32:28 GMT
Do you know the initial location of installation? Will it be the Uxbridge branch?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 7:25:52 GMT
Uxbridge branch is the test bed for the new signalling
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 13:48:50 GMT
Uxbridge branch is the test bed for the new signalling Not so much a test bed, but it is where the first installation will be, initially in a fixed block overlay arrangement. Majority of the testing will be done at Old Dalby.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 15:26:59 GMT
Yer that is what I was trying to get at
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