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Post by metman on Mar 18, 2014 18:50:14 GMT
That's it. The reason I but the 'U' in brackets was as described. On the later 1938/49 72 and 73 tube stocks UNDM the driving controls and other equipment was placed in a cupboard in the saloon - little has changed. The R stock differed from the 1949 stock and 1938 stock conversions as there were no controls at the coupling end internally as stated by norbitonflyer. The R stock followed an American tradition of having a coupling switch on the outside. How does this effect models?
The outer ends have extra grab rails to assist the shunter and there is also the uncoupling barrel into which the key is inserted.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Mar 18, 2014 20:07:36 GMT
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Post by whistlekiller2000 on Mar 18, 2014 20:40:03 GMT
I shouldn't be too difficult to find, I'll probably stick with the Abbey Road team most of the time Just a brief note to say how interesting I found your printed models when I saw them last Saturday at Acton on the Abbey Road stand. I was the bloke discussing with you if there were ways to get the surface finish shinier, not that I could ever hope to have come up with something as good as you've done CP! You have a definite talent there! Rich'
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Post by tomek on Mar 18, 2014 21:11:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2014 12:54:32 GMT
I shouldn't be too difficult to find, I'll probably stick with the Abbey Road team most of the time Just a brief note to say how interesting I found your printed models when I saw them last Saturday at Acton on the Abbey Road stand. I was the bloke discussing with you if there were ways to get the surface finish shinier, not that I could ever hope to have come up with something as good as you've done CP! You have a definite talent there! Rich' Thank you very much! Was lovely to discuss the Undeground at Acton We've considered that option, but it basically doubles the cost for each car (between 60 and 70 euros instead of about 30). We haven't ruled it out completely yet, though
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 17:42:56 GMT
This is what 1973TS looks like in Shapeways Frosted Detail, with FUD cab ends: It works out to ~US$90 a car, plus the bogies which I ended up using White Strong Flexible. Not cheap, but the results are very rewarding.
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Post by metroland on Apr 25, 2014 19:39:43 GMT
Glad to see another user of Endo power bogies on Intervale. I find them much better than Tenshodo and Black Beetle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2014 19:58:36 GMT
Glad to see another user of Endo power bogies on Intervale. I find them much better than Tenshodo and Black Beetle. They are smoother running and ~2x the power over Tenshodo. I use two per DM wired in series, making smooth slow speed possible.
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Post by metman on Apr 26, 2014 19:58:08 GMT
Might have to get some for my 1938 stock. Will two Endos power a 6 car train with ease?
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Post by phillw48 on Apr 26, 2014 23:05:14 GMT
Where can you get Endo trucks from?
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Post by roythebus on Apr 27, 2014 7:52:22 GMT
To try to answer some of the District stock question if they've not already been answered, Q stock had Ward couplers, air pipes, control jumpers and "bus line" jumpers and was known a "car stock"; they were designed to be operated as separate cars. West end dm cars did not have jumper cables on the west end cab as they were not designed for operational uncoupling at that end. all uncoupling in service was done at the east end. They did have air pipes and Ward couplers on the west end for emergency use.
COP and R stock was "unit" stock, designed to run as set units of 2,3 or 4 cars and was permanently coupled into units. Any additional units were coupled on the east end of R stock. COP had auto couplings at both ends, but again in service coupling was always done at the east end.
On the east end of a 4 car R stock there were no controls a such as fitted on the 38TS UNDM cars. There was a basic panel in the end of the car which from memory had the coupler controls and was adjacent to the emergency brake valve. The west end driving cars of R stock had Ward coupler and no air connections.
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Post by metroland on Apr 27, 2014 9:01:45 GMT
Where can you get Endo trucks from? www.metromodels.net/Look under 'Online Shop' and Motor bogies (Can't get a link directly to the page)
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Post by phillw48 on Apr 27, 2014 9:24:12 GMT
Where can you get Endo trucks from? www.metromodels.net/Look under 'Online Shop' and Motor bogies (Can't get a link directly to the page) Thanks.
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Post by metman on Apr 27, 2014 12:28:00 GMT
I think I'll give them a try too. I'm planning on having a 6 car train of 1938 stock with either one of the motor cars or trailers double equipped. When the 1938 stock started to run on the Bakerloo 6 car trains were used until after the war as platform lengthening wasn't finished and there were still large numbers of standard stock trains around. I therefore think it is not unreasonable that some test runs were made up to harrow on the hill and back!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2014 15:59:57 GMT
Might have to get some for my 1938 stock. Will two Endos power a 6 car train with ease? Yes, easily.
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