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Post by kabsonline on Jan 8, 2013 16:53:47 GMT
Hi all Is there such a ticket that gives you access to all of the UK National Rail services for the day, a bit like an all tube Travelcard but for National Rail? Thanks kabsonline  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2013 17:07:30 GMT
There is the All Line Rover, for 7 or 14 days; there doesn't seem much point in having one just for a day. Most regions/companies have rovers of some description; your local one would be the Southern Daysave (which you have to buy direct from them). Try here for a list of NR rovers (there are more under "special offers"). |
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Post by stevo on Jan 8, 2013 17:24:38 GMT
The distance between London and Inverness - by land transport - is over 500miles and the fastest journey time by train is a few minutes short of 8 hours. Not possible to make a return journey out and back on the same day. Therefore a 1-day ticket to cover all of NR seems a little pointless.
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Post by grahamhewett on Jan 8, 2013 18:32:38 GMT
There may still be an all system annual pass for NR; in BR days, the public could, in effect, buy the equivalent of an annual staff pass - in the mid-90s, the cost was £10 000. If it still exists, goodness knows what the cost might be...
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Post by Fahad on Jan 8, 2013 18:51:09 GMT
grahamhewett, do you remember what was written as the destination/origin of the ticket, or the NLCs?
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Post by grahamhewett on Jan 8, 2013 19:25:55 GMT
Fahad - sorry, no,I never actually saw one (having a "proper" staff pass myself). The most likely thing, I guess, is "All (ships and) stations" as per the staff passes (the "ships" bit, of course disappearing when Sealink was sold off). Quite how it worked in the days before BR staff were issued with a credit card style ticket, I'm even less sure - in the pre-card days, we had a medallion about the size of a 50p piece. This had no indication as to what it was. The thing was to wear it on one's watch chain - can't remember when I last saw anyone with a suitable waistcoat...
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 8, 2013 19:47:33 GMT
The distance between London and Inverness - by land transport - is over 500miles and the fastest journey time by train is a few minutes short of 8 hours. Not possible to make a return journey out and back on the same day. Therefore a 1-day ticket to cover all of NR seems a little pointless. You *could* (depending on timings) catch the Caley on the way back, mind! Although I guess there are places south of London and north of Inverness you have Wick/Thurso! |
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Post by suncloud on Jan 8, 2013 21:13:09 GMT
I would imagine to price it to satisfy the operators of the most expensive journeys it would have to be priced so high (why buy a £200 ticket when a £100 'travelcard' is also valid?) it would be exceedingly poor value for all but a handful of people (on a one day basis).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2013 0:58:52 GMT
I would imagine to price it to satisfy the operators of the most expensive journeys it would have to be priced so high (why buy a £200 ticket when a £100 'travelcard' is also valid?) it would be exceedingly poor value for all but a handful of people (on a one day basis). [/color] Why did I expect you to say that, Baldrick? And what, pray, might this 'plan' of yours consist of ? Well, I was thinking that if you could somehow slow down the rotation of the Earth, then a day could actually last, well, years, so then that day Travelcard could prove to be excellent value!'
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Post by snoggle on Jan 9, 2013 7:02:28 GMT
There may still be an all system annual pass for NR; in BR days, the public could, in effect, buy the equivalent of an annual staff pass - in the mid-90s, the cost was £10 000. If it still exists, goodness knows what the cost might be... GH I suspect it has gone. The Season Tickets page on the National Rail website says long distance tickets are generally not available and points people to the All Line Rover. Unfortunately this is something of a deceit given the ludicrous and greedy restrictions that ATOC slapped on the All Line Rover rendering it useless for AM peak travel at certain stations. The restrictions have certainly stopped me using the Rover ticket. There is a Kings Cross - Newcastle season ticket which costs a mere £17,600 a year Standard Class and £29,920 First Class  . Euston - Manchester costs £13,272 a year Standard and £21,768 a year First Class. Given how much peak tickets cost on Virgin the annual ticket is actually not too bad value if you could afford the initial layout. |
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Post by metrailway on Jan 9, 2013 15:33:48 GMT
Apart from an All Line Rover (ALR), I guess the closest ticket to a 'all line day travelcard' would be the Penzance to Thurso/ Anytime Return, routed +VIA LONDON which costs £524. You can use various routes to get to/from Thurso (as long as you don't double back!). As the outward portion is valid for 5 days and the return portion is valid for a month, the ticket, if used correctly, can be a cheaper alternative to buying two 14 day ALRs. However, it won't be valid for much of Wales, Anglia, and a large part of the old Southern Region.
I guess tickets like Shanklin - Thurso or Dover - Mallaig could be used in a similar manner
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. Euston - Manchester costs £13,272 a year Standard and £21,768 a year First Class. Given how much peak tickets cost on Virgin the annual ticket is actually not too bad value if you could afford the initial layout.
