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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 21:43:33 GMT
Has anybody else just missed a train and the driver has reopened the doors for you to get on the train?
It has happened to me quite a few times.
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Post by l1group on Jan 4, 2013 22:11:04 GMT
Seen it happen to others, but mostly on NR, to be honest.
A Piccadilly line train did wait for me to get on the train once at Boston Manor, as the train was stopped as I was getting down to platform level. I was on crutches at that time.
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Post by londonstuff on Jan 4, 2013 22:40:11 GMT
Has anybody else just missed a train and the driver has reopened the doors for you to get on the train? It has happened to me quite a few times. Because the frequency of tube lines is so high if drivers did this there would soon be blocking back and therefore delays all over the line, so it is certainly not encouraged.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2013 0:27:17 GMT
This has happened to me so many times over the years at Hillingdon that I always feel it is worth hurrying down the steps onto the platform even if the train looks as if it is about to depart. Don't forget that the Met timetable has slowed down considerably in the last few years so the there must now be more slack to allow such courtesies. Looking back, however, it has always been during off peak times which supports Londonstuff's point about congestion and I suspect the T/Ops wouldn't do it at peak times when they may compromise the timetable at Harrow.
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Post by antharro on Jan 5, 2013 1:03:43 GMT
I've had this happen once at Kennington, changing from a Bank branch train to a Charing Cross train. Saw the Charing Cross train sitting in the platform, doors open, as my Bank train pulled in. I was waiting at the right set of doors for a cross passage, so as soon as my train's doors opened I was across to the CX train. Just as I got onto the platform, the door beeps sounded. I know better than to rush at that point, so I stopped short and shook my head - so close! The T/Op must have been looking at his CCTV because he opened the doors, waited another 5 seconds then closed them again. Bit naughty given the signal was green, but I appreciated it. (Unless he had a door problem and had to open them anyway!) Gave a thumbs up to the CCTV cameras when I got off at Waterloo, hope he saw it!
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Post by class411 on Jan 5, 2013 8:49:01 GMT
Has anybody else just missed a train and the driver has reopened the doors for you to get on the train? It has happened to me quite a few times. This happens all the time at Hammersmith. I've known drivers re-open the doors three times as people rush onto the platform. This may be possible because there is some slack in the timings for trains leaving platforms one and two because said timings have to a llow for the very slow departure from platform 3. (Just a shot in the dark.) I've experienced it happening at other stations as well.
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Post by superteacher on Jan 9, 2013 20:26:44 GMT
I know it may sound harsh, but I don't think that drivers should re-open doors, unless there is a very good reason for doing so. I say this because it gives passengers the idea that all drivers will do it, and thus may encourage them to run at doors as they are closing. I 've often seen passengers just miss a train, and then look annoyed when the driver does not re-open them. If no driver ever did it, then people would soon get the message.
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Post by Jerome H on Jan 9, 2013 21:05:44 GMT
On the ITV "The Tube", one of the episodes featured someone learning to drive a train in which the instructor told the trainee that "you'll always leave someone behind". Maybe some drivers have more compassion.
Back in my London (as a kid), I recall a few instances of doors reopening, but only because someone obstructed the doors..
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Post by Colin on Jan 10, 2013 1:19:12 GMT
This may be possible because there is some slack in the timings for trains leaving platforms one and two because said timings have to a llow for the very slow departure from platform 3. (Just a shot in the dark.) I'm not sure I follow you here. I can categorically state that there is no slack to allow for slow departures from Hammersmith - I can't speak for the Picc, but on the District we depart Hammersmith in both directions in parallel (ie, as fast as the train can accelerate); especially westbound as we go uphill!! Whilst we're at Hammersmith, I never wait to connect with a Picc on the westbound if I've already done so at Barons Court. More generally, Londonstuff is spot on; re-opening the doors isn't something that is encouraged, unless of course there is an obstruction or the driver realises their signal is still red We're more likely to re-open for runners at the extreme ends of lines (lower frequency of service) or if it suits (running early) - but usually only if the runner has made a reasonable effort. I ain't waiting for someone who makes the hand gestures but doesn't back it up with moving their legs vigorously. During the peaks, forget it. You will only get a re-open if there's an obstruction or the stick's still red. The only exception will be some terminals in the morning peak - Wimbledon on the District can be a nightmare as its just a constant stream of people coming onto the platforms. Richmond isn't too bad and at Ealing a central line train arriving at the wrong time is all it takes to hinder a clean one shot close of the doors. And as for Mile End - if I'm early or on time and a Central appears, I'll probably re-open and wait.........but if I'm running late......
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Post by Jerome H on Jan 10, 2013 1:26:25 GMT
This may be possible because there is some slack in the timings for trains leaving platforms one and two because said timings have to a llow for the very slow departure from platform 3. (Just a shot in the dark.) I'm not sure I follow you here. I can categorically state that there is no slack to allow for slow departures from Hammersmith - I can't speak for the Picc, but on the District we depart Hammersmith in both directions in parallel (ie, as fast as the train can accelerate); especially westbound as we go uphill!! What about the other Hammersmith?
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Post by Colin on Jan 10, 2013 2:34:24 GMT
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Post by class411 on Jan 10, 2013 8:01:39 GMT
This may be possible because there is some slack in the timings for trains leaving platforms one and two because said timings have to a llow for the very slow departure from platform 3. (Just a shot in the dark.) I'm not sure I follow you here. I can categorically state that there is no slack to allow for slow departures from Hammersmith - I can't speak for the Picc, but on the District we depart Hammersmith in both directions in parallel (ie, as fast as the train can accelerate); especially westbound as we go uphill!! Whilst we're at Hammersmith, I never wait to connect with a Picc on the westbound if I've already done so at Barons Court. Sorry, I should have been clearer. I was talking about the H&C terminus at Hammersmith. I've never known anyone re-open doors on the District or Piccadilly platforms. On the H&C I very much doubt (although, of course, I could be wrong) if anyone could accelerate as fast as possible from platform three as the crossover to get to the eastbound track is very sharp. Whatever the case on that, re-opening of doors is very common on trains departing Hammersmith H&C.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 8:14:06 GMT
It's happened a few times when I've come onto the EB platform at West Kensington via the staff exit. Driver has seen me arrive on the platform and the doors have re opened!
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Post by l1group on Jan 10, 2013 22:58:35 GMT
Whatever the case on that, re-opening of doors is very common on trains departing Hammersmith H&C. Correct, as jammz and I go to Hammersmith H&C/Circle regularly after school (albeit we do wait for the S7, deliberately. Always Platform 1). I have not seen it happen when we get on the S7, but many, many times I see doors reopening on the C stock. Most trains seem to do that towards the evening peak (with school pupils, commuters, etc). All cramming on at the last seconds...
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Post by metman on Jan 10, 2013 23:51:56 GMT
Ahh this reminds me when I was a wee nipper back in the 90s and my Nan and I would be out on the trains for the day. We would usually start at Edgware and return to Canons Park. If we rocked up to a crew operated train (usually a 59) the guard would let us in his door and move his bar so we could pass down into the saloon. I used to love using the 59 stock and although thought the 72s looked smarter they weren't as nice.
On the flip side I used to open the doors on the 83 stock at EVERY station! Bet I was popular as a 10 year old.....(The Jubilee was deserted in those days - lovely)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 23:58:33 GMT
It happens to me a lot at Hyde Park Corner eastbound. It's the point where the trains wait to 'regulate the service' and the driver can see late arrivers as the cab is right alongside the entrance to the platform
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 19:24:51 GMT
I've never known anyone re-open doors on the District or Piccadilly platforms. It happened a few times going Westbound in the peaks. I managed to run before the driver closes the doors though. Some drivers do it at certain stations and platforms, Shepherd's Bush Market WB is a good place, the driver can see you running up the stairs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 1:13:25 GMT
It has happened to me quite often at Earls Court on the District Line. Just make eye contact with the driver and give him a smile... has almost always worked for me!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2013 16:10:36 GMT
Not in the UK, but I remember once in the Paris suburbs when I was going down the stairs onto a suburban RER station just as the train had actually started to move. As the steps were at the very end of the platform, the driver could clearly see me and he stopped and opened the doors to let me in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 14:05:28 GMT
I've never seen them re-open the doors at High Barnet.
And nor should they. There is almost always another train in 4 mins or so, and all it takes is a walk across the footbridge (or round the flat bit) to wherever the next train is departing from.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2013 22:03:42 GMT
Happened to me on the Glasgow subway, the driver leaned out her window to talk to me, waved as I passed on leaving the train, smiles and all. How pleasent, what a lovely railway to travel on. Ah well, back to some of the grumps that staff London Underground.
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