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Post by melikepie on Dec 21, 2012 11:41:38 GMT
Do trains ever terminate at Mudchute?
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Post by superteacher on Dec 21, 2012 14:55:16 GMT
Do trains ever terminate at Mudchute? Yes, but I'm not sure if there are any that are timetabled to do so. Probably only in times of disruption. |
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Post by Deep Level on Dec 22, 2012 22:23:48 GMT
I can't help but feel that Crossharbour trains should be extended to terminate at Mudchute, then the Crossharbour headshunt can be altered so that the headshunt is on the easternly track and the Southbound track can then be straight.
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Post by andypurk on Dec 22, 2012 22:59:44 GMT
I can't help but feel that Crossharbour trains should be extended to terminate at Mudchute, then the Crossharbour headshunt can be altered so that the headshunt is on the easternly track and the Southbound track can then be straight. The Crossharbour siding has the advantage of being in between the running lines, so that trains can reverse without conflict. Any service reversing in the Mudchute bay needs to cross the northbound running line to get there, possibly causing delays. I've only seen Mudchute being used when there are engineering works. I don't think either reversal point get much use during normal service. Most (or all?) trains now either reverse at Canary Wharf or run through to Lewisham. |
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Post by davidp on Dec 24, 2012 12:35:52 GMT
I can't help but feel that Crossharbour trains should be extended to terminate at Mudchute, then the Crossharbour headshunt can be altered so that the headshunt is on the easternly track and the Southbound track can then be straight. What Crossharbour trains? There's been no scheduled trains terminating at Crossharbour for several years now. In other threads, posters more informed than me have said that the Crossharbour headshunt isn't long enough to take 3-car trains and every trains going south of Canary Wharf is 3-car long. Also in other threads, it's been mentioned that there have been a couple of weekends when the Beckton branch has been closed and the Tower Gateway service was diverted to terminate at Mudchute instead, but apart from that it's only when (very) late running Lewisham services that have been turned short or during signalling/track problems south of the river that Mudchute platform 3 gets a work out. And of course technically trains don't have to use that platform to turn back, thanks to the comprehensive signalling and the scissors crossover north of the station, southbound trains *could* terminate at any of Mudchute's 3 platform and return back north. |
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Post by crusty54 on Dec 25, 2012 4:06:36 GMT
Crossharbour was also useful when the London Arena staged events. Now long gone.
Trains can also now reverse at Greenwich if necessary.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2012 11:34:13 GMT
The siding does seem redundant now; if it were removed it would give a much more straight route going south into Mudchute. I used to commute it daily and the train would always go too fast over that section and throw you violently sideways just entering the platform at Mudchute, but I went down there again recently and the train went slower so it wasn't as bad.
But I suppose the expense of actually removing the siding far outweighs the cost of keeping it there, so it'll probably just be left as is.
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Post by davidp on Dec 26, 2012 13:14:34 GMT
The siding does seem redundant now; if it were removed it would give a much more straight route going south into Mudchute. I used to commute it daily and the train would always go too fast over that section and throw you violently sideways just entering the platform at Mudchute, but I went down there again recently and the train went slower so it wasn't as bad. But I suppose the expense of actually removing the siding far outweighs the cost of keeping it there, so it'll probably just be left as is. I think that I'm probably misreading the above post, but I'm not sure why the siding at Crossharbour caused a violent sideways movement on trains entering platform 1 at Mudchute. There is a noticeable lurch going into that platform but that's because of the relatively tight curve at the north end of the platform and the speed at which trains used to take it. I do agree that the centre siding at Crossharbour is redundant but I would have thought that the ongoing costs of maintaining the points/signalling/trackwork there would be more expensive than the one-off cost of removing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2012 16:03:21 GMT
I think that I'm probably misreading the above post, but I'm not sure why the siding at Crossharbour caused a violent sideways movement on trains entering platform 1 at Mudchute. There is a noticeable lurch going into that platform but that's because of the relatively tight curve at the north end of the platform and the speed at which trains used to take it. No, you're right, I've just looked at a map to refresh my memory and the southbound track does indeed return to its normal position adjacent to the northbound a short distance before Mudchute platforms, so the two aren't related as I previously remembered. |
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