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Post by castlebar on Nov 2, 2012 18:49:25 GMT
At about 03:40 is a picture of streamlined stock with a GREEN PARK destination board
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 22:48:25 GMT
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Post by Phil on Nov 7, 2012 9:15:49 GMT
Yes, we forget what the war must have been like...... such as putting back a treadless tyre onto a bus (3.02) all Underground station names blacked out (4.20) and a train every 90 seconds (7.40)? They can't do that now with all the automation!!! And the vehicles - those top route-box STLs were in my mind the most elegant design ever to come out: much better than these modern swirly curvy things  . |
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Post by t697 on Nov 9, 2012 21:43:02 GMT
What do you recognise? Here's a few, what else can you fill in?;
0039 Acton Town Eastbound.
0049 Chiswick Park WB
0055 Northfields - view west from the east end of the EB platform. Northfields depot shed in background.
0100 Don't know!
0134 The London Bridge that's now in Arizona!
0141 City, Bank of England?
0145 Should know, but don't!
0158 Some early 20th century suburb
0202 Some 1930's suburb. Northern Heights area? Maybe unlikely since no other shots seem from there.
0204 Is that the A40 Western Ave between Park Royal and Gypsy Corner - before road widening?
0205 -10 Various 1930s flats. All near new at the time.
0235 A shoegear link on a shaping machine. This link design was last used on negative shoegear on the just scrapped 'A' stock. My team once had to update the drawing and found it dated to 1915! I've seen photos of even earlier shoegear of same scheme so that basic design was used for over 100 years. Odd because it isn't very good and there have been many better over the years.
0238 Component not a brake block as suggested by the commentary!
0245 Possibly the Northfields train wash.
0312 Needs no introduction.
0321 A bus gricer would know which bus garage I guess.
0334 Almost certainly Northfields depot. 1935 Experimental Tube Stock (prototypes that led to the iconic 1938TS).
0336 Northfields
0348 Lot's Road? Or possibly Bankside. More likely Lot's Road since the film is about transport.
0354 Chiswick Pk station from street?
0407 - 0415 Definitely Chiswick Park
0437 Uxbridge (or Cockfosters). Services person in shot suggests more likely Uxbridge - RAF Uxbridge nearby.
0447 - 50 Definitely Uxbridge.
0501 Picc & Met at Uxbridge. Met line is O or P stock which was near new and operated on Uxbridge services at the time.
0503 Prob somewhere Uxb - Hil - Ick - Ruislip.
0519 ?? looks like a canal or river?? Where can that be?
0531 Distinctive house style, but where?
0534 Surely somewhere in Metroland? Maybe Ruislip area.
0542 Pinner, Bridge St from SB train.
0545 Kilburn SB
0552 Neasden Met line power station? North end of Neasden depot. Demolished in 1950's.
0602 EB Picc approaching Chiswick Park. Semaphore signals with trainstops a surprise to me.
0614 Chiswick Pk again.
0650 -0658 Bus station in front of Victoria main line. Now in 2012, this is just about to be changed for ever.
0707 Somewhere I'm sure I should know!
0710 Bank of England again.
0734/5 Guard opens the doors just before the train stops. Minimising dwell time of course and since it is in this official film, not frowned on at the time it seems.
0808 Man with pipe on escalator. 45 years before the King's Cross fire...
0849 Somewhere south side of Circle?
0914 Distinctive. I wonder where. May have been redeveloped since?
0921 London Bridge again maybe? River cranes suggest Pool of London.
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Post by jazza on Nov 10, 2012 2:18:07 GMT
What a fabulous video. Thank you for posting.
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Post by rsdworker on Nov 10, 2012 4:42:07 GMT
i recall the trains doors open before stopping - its happened to me in 1991's on Victoria line but i don't remember if policy to have to stopped first before opening but sometimes i saw doors open before just stopping it eg buttons lit up but commonly drivers stop first and open doors today
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 9:18:13 GMT
Is the power station not Battersea A? The profile looks very distinctive
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Post by phillw48 on Nov 10, 2012 9:27:03 GMT
No, its Lots Road.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 10, 2012 12:46:05 GMT
What do you recognise? Here's a few, what else can you fill in?; 0100 Looks like Marble Arch, looking east along Oxford Street. Followed by 657 trolleybus - Chiswick roundabout perhaps? 0141 confirmed that can only be the Bank of England - "Waterloo Line" is of course the "Drain" 0145 South Africa House (SE corner of Trafalgar Square) 0245 Suggetsed it is possibly the Northfields train wash - but was 1938 stock in use on the Piccy at the time? 0325 The presence of buses displaying No 22 and No 52 should narrow down the garage. 0348 Not Bankside - too many chimneys. Given the position of the sun I think it's on the South Bank so Battersea A is my guess - the beading at the top of the chimneys would be consistent with this guess 0437 Uxbridge - the step down into the train indicates an intermediate level platform as used where tube and surface stock share, so not Cockfosters 0707 Marble Arch again - No 30 turning out of Oxford Street into Park Lane. 0712 Marble Arch looking west this time 0720 This foxed me for a while as the No 8 and No 76 buses only meet at Bank (where they cross, rather than share a road). A Google found that Tangyes Pumps were based on Queen Victoria Street - I can only assume that the No 8 was being diverted away from Cheapside for some reason. 0730 As the train's destination says "Liverpool Street" this must be the Central Line. Nearly all deep tube stations on that line have island platforms, but this one has the platform on the left of the train which means i think it must be Holborn 0822 "to Northern Line" - so this is obviously not Holborn - if it's a Central Line station it's probably TCR 0830 "Bank and Liverpool Street only" suggests the station is St Pauls 0921 London Bridge definitely [/quote] |
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Post by castlebar on Nov 10, 2012 13:53:00 GMT
The "GM" garage plates on the sides of the buses = Victoria Garage (GillinghaM Street)
Why does the streamlined tube stock display a "Green Park" destination plate??
Were there Green Park terminators then?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 16:28:48 GMT
Indeed there were. However, My WTT notes for WTT No.11 from 3/5/37 states there was then (from that WTT) a reduction of Down Street reversers. From WTT 17 of 28/11/38 there was only one Down Street reverser in the MF morning peak and one train which stabled there during the midday period. In fact the stabling train arrived before the reverser, so that the latter reversed in the east end siding berth with the west end berth occupied - remember that Down Street siding could thenaccommodate two full-length trains. On Saurdays there were three in the AM peak and one that stabled at the end of the peak, which restarted EB in the midday peak.
These appeared to be abolished from WTT 21A of 21/11/39.
Down Street reversers were re-introduced MF midday and Saturday evenings from WTT 78 of 9/6/58.
MF midday Down Street reversers abolished from WTT 82 of 21/3/60 and Saturdays from WTT 83 of 14/10/60.
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