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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2012 16:38:23 GMT
At Old Street, both N/B and S/B it appears they have changed the bulbs or something, the lighting is now a ghastly blue/teal colour that is enough to give you a headache and gives the platform a nasty atmosphere, anyone know whats going on? I remember something similar was tried at Belsize Park a few years ago but this is even worse!
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Post by Alight on Oct 24, 2012 18:07:35 GMT
Going by your description, I suspect that the new lighting is LED in accordance to energy saving measures. The Circle & Hammersmith platforms at Baker Street have also received this treatment.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 1:41:29 GMT
So it seems you don't like LEDs. Too bad I never visited stations with that yet.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 8:17:37 GMT
Sounds a little too blue to be LED, in Japan there is a station where they are trialling blue lighting as an anti suicide measure
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 8:37:31 GMT
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Post by trt on Oct 25, 2012 9:20:56 GMT
Sounds a little too blue to be LED, in Japan there is a station where they are trialling blue lighting as an anti suicide measure Well I can tell you for a fact it has the opposite effect on flies.  *disclaimer* Not that suicide is any kind of a joking matter, of course. |
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Post by bassmike on Oct 25, 2012 12:43:04 GMT
I'ts the last thing I'd ever do.
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Post by Alight on Oct 25, 2012 14:58:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2012 18:52:30 GMT
Alight - its a similar colour but the blue is more extreme than that, perhaps compounded slightly by the fact the tiling is the grey/blue Victoria line style. The lighting at GPS doesen't look too bad, Old Street's is more depressing.
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 25, 2012 19:16:58 GMT
Checked tonight. They are whiter than normal LU standards. They are low energy and have diffusers.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2012 0:53:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2012 17:10:24 GMT
Alight - its a similar colour but the blue is more extreme than that, perhaps compounded slightly by the fact the tiling is the grey/blue Victoria line style. The lighting at GPS doesen't look too bad, Old Street's is more depressing. I am interested to see what the look like. I think I will slink through Old Street tomorrow to see. I expect they have fitted the horrible cold/blue 7000K LEDs like on some buses, instead of warm 3000K LEDS. Charing Cross hospital has retrofitted LED tubes to their existing ceiling light fittings and the they give a normal warm colour light. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2012 17:29:02 GMT
Sounds a little too blue to be LED, in Japan there is a station where they are trialling blue lighting as an anti suicide measure Moody blue will have the opposite effect to their desires there in Japan. The warm feel of orange would be the colour to have. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2012 20:31:35 GMT
I was on a bus recently that certainly had that kind of lighting. It wasn't very "nice". It was something I could sit down in and read my paper in, but not something I would like to be in for a whole journey - ESPECIALLY - on the tube. If anyone is interested, Waitrose, where I work, is fitting these new LED lights to all of our lightings in an upgrade plan over the next 36 months.... (  ! ) Toby |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 1:02:35 GMT
Sounds a little too blue to be LED, in Japan there is a station where they are trialling blue lighting as an anti suicide measure Moody blue will have the opposite effect to their desires there in Japan. The warm feel of orange would be the colour to have. They have a cool try, but it will just make the place more depressed, that is. Warm orange makes places look happy. |
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 28, 2012 6:24:28 GMT
the new tubes use around half the power of the old T12s. Several options are being examined to get the best solution but expect escalators to have new (non LED) illumination soon. Longer lasting too so money saving and lower electricity bills
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Post by rincew1nd on Oct 28, 2012 20:40:10 GMT
I fear the blesséd health & safety might have a hand in this somewhere.
"I fell over under the dull canopy because I couldn't see because the lights weren't turned on. I want ten million pounds."
btw, some of those pics could do with being a bit smaller.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 20:50:05 GMT
As well as energy and replacement costs the LEDs will help in reducing the heat down in the stations. However the lighting will still need to be cleaned from time to time, given the tube's dusty environment. I thought from all the lamps day burning these days in the open sections, LUL were not too worried about electric bills. Lights are rarely switched off. For example, my favorite is the modern Canary Wharf station and the lights under the glass roof at the entrance which are always on.   Typical examples of LUL stations burning the elecy during daylight hours.    |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 21:06:00 GMT
I fear the blesséd health & safety might have a hand in this somewhere. "I fell over under the dull canopy because I couldn't see because the lights weren't turned on. I want ten million pounds." btw, some of those pics could do with being a bit smaller.And the sodium lights on the platforms where there are no canopies, where there are glass canopies and even when there are canopies there is more natural light than the electric lighting at night. The station lighting left on even when the sation is closed and there is nobody about, including the station signage. Lights left on trains in depots the list is end less.   |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2012 21:48:42 GMT
I was on a bus recently that certainly had that kind of lighting. It wasn't very "nice". It was something I could sit down in and read my paper in, but not something I would like to be in for a whole journey - ESPECIALLY - on the tube. If anyone is interested, Waitrose, where I work, is fitting these new LED lights to all of our lightings in an upgrade plan over the next 36 months.... ( ! ) Toby I agree about the LEDs on the buses. Given Waitrose's attention to detail I would be surprised if they installed the cold 7000K white LEDs for shop lighting.  |
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Post by Alight on Oct 28, 2012 22:51:40 GMT
These are High Pressure Sodium (SON) lights and don't produce a particularly nice light. Low Pressure Sodium (SOX) isn't used on the railways as it is yellow in colour (with the red warm up phase) which can confuse drivers at night in relation to yellow signals. |
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Post by crusty54 on Oct 29, 2012 4:58:36 GMT
most open air stations have sensors and timers but it can be difficult to keep them clean etc.
The different colour LEDs at Waitrose are for different foods - meet, cheese/dairy etc.
As I said before, not all the new lamps are LED but they still save energy.
New solutions for the open stations are being examined.
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Post by londonboy on Oct 29, 2012 22:18:09 GMT
At Old Street, both N/B and S/B it appears they have changed the bulbs or something, the lighting is now a ghastly blue/teal colour that is enough to give you a headache and gives the platform a nasty atmosphere, anyone know whats going on? I remember something similar was tried at Belsize Park a few years ago but this is even worse! They are being installed at Belsize Park too |
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Post by trt on Oct 30, 2012 10:10:37 GMT
They have some especially bright lamps at Bushey, on platforms and covering the approach road at the back of the station. They were burning them 24/7 during the Olympics and when I queried it I got some BS about the Paralympics and DDA.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2012 13:03:21 GMT
At Old Street, both N/B and S/B it appears they have changed the bulbs or something, the lighting is now a ghastly blue/teal colour that is enough to give you a headache and gives the platform a nasty atmosphere, anyone know whats going on? I remember something similar was tried at Belsize Park a few years ago but this is even worse! They are being installed at Belsize Park too I know, it's some lighting that saves energy yet makes the place look depressing and sad. It makes me feel the station looks abandoned! |
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Post by superteacher on Oct 30, 2012 14:30:49 GMT
Went to Old Street yesterday - didn't think the lighting was that bad.
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Post by North End on Oct 30, 2012 15:11:35 GMT
Went to Old Street yesterday - didn't think the lighting was that bad. Not keen at all - when I drove through there last week I wondered what had happened when the platform came in to view. If we want to save energy, why not look at how station lighting levels have been needlessly increased over the last 10 years. Anyone unconvinced of this need only take a look at Brent Cross, which when first installed quickly gained a reputation among staff for probably being visible from outer space! |
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Post by trt on Oct 30, 2012 15:35:38 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Oct 30, 2012 15:45:26 GMT
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