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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2012 20:00:11 GMT
The recent SWT MDs webchat had the following item of interest:
"There are no plans in the current franchise to replace the current 483 trains that operate the Island Line service. These trains continue to be maintained to a high standard by our experienced and dedicated Island Line engineering team and remain extremely reliable".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 8:22:41 GMT
It really is the "Age of the Train" in the Isle of Wight - Stagecoach accountants sweating their assets until they are dry!
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Post by grahamhewett on Oct 9, 2012 8:27:18 GMT
I have often wodered why the 483s weren't replaced with, say, the 67ts when it became available, although I suspect that the problem with newer kit is the trip down Ryde Pier and the position of some underfloor equipment on newer vehicles. Does any know?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 11:58:16 GMT
I have often wodered why the 483s weren't replaced with, say, the 67ts when it became available, although I suspect that the problem with newer kit is the trip down Ryde Pier and the position of some underfloor equipment on newer vehicles. Does any know? GH The ex-Northern line 1972 MK1s would had been an ideal replacement, still retaining their guard's positions. They did not choose to take any 1967s, so they are going have to wait quite a while for the next load of tube trains to come onto the second hand market. 1973s or 1972 MKIIs ? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 12:06:36 GMT
It really is the " Age of the Train" in the Isle of Wight - Stagecoach accountants sweating their assets until they are dry! XF Now then, now then, now then this is the age of the train.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 19:48:13 GMT
the last time I travelled on the Isle of Wight there were class 485/486 running. 4 car VEC units and 3 car TIS.
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Post by metman on Oct 9, 2012 19:57:22 GMT
Glad to hear the 1938 stock is to be kept on. I can at least get my 'proper' train fix once in a while. I wonder if they would permit an A stock shuttle from Shanklin to Ryde St Johns? ;D
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Post by Chris M on Oct 9, 2012 20:07:29 GMT
I'm not majorly familiar with traffic patterns on island, but I'd guess that Ryde St John's Road to Ryde Pier Head would be the busiest stretch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 20:53:10 GMT
If they're not broke then don't fix em.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 21:05:27 GMT
Why not transfer some more old LT Stock to the IOW and make the line a the first UK working heritage electric railway. It is not as mad it sounds as it could be a winner and tourist attraction. The Surface Stock could only work as far as Ryde St Johns but this no big deal.
Maybe the LT Museum should bid for the franchise when it is up for renewal?
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Post by Chris M on Oct 10, 2012 0:49:12 GMT
It wouldn't quite be a UK first, as the Lymington branch line effectively was for a couple of years, but I like the idea!
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Post by grahamhewett on Oct 10, 2012 7:00:55 GMT
- and it nearly happened - one of the original bidders for the line was a consortium of the IOW Steam railway and the Southern Vectis bus operator but, unfortunately, the didn't qualify.
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Post by christopher125 on Oct 11, 2012 15:06:16 GMT
If they're not broke then don't fix em. This is the issue that people often seem to forget - simply replacing one set of life expired stock with another is pointless. The replacement stock has to be simple to maintain, in good condition, requires minimal modifications and will survive the salty air. Chris |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Oct 11, 2012 15:33:05 GMT
The 73ts is certainly in good condition (probably most reliable LU stock atm), not sure about maintenance though... The perfect IOW replacement stock.
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Post by metman on Oct 11, 2012 22:01:55 GMT
Perhaps it is a little too long. Not sure how easy it will be to maintain the Westcode brake!
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Post by Chris M on Oct 11, 2012 23:23:32 GMT
And will the materials used in construction stand up to the salt and spray they'll encounter every trip?
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Oct 12, 2012 11:16:59 GMT
That might be the only issue... not sure what the IOW environment will do to it's construction... although the 73ts was mooted by Island Line Trains themselves apparently.
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Post by phillw48 on Oct 12, 2012 17:16:09 GMT
It might be because of the aluminium bodies. You get electrolytic corrosion between steel and aluminium in salt water.
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Post by christopher125 on Oct 18, 2012 22:55:39 GMT
I remember reading on the SEMG yahoo group a post from someone who actually inspected the 38ts and newer aluminium stock (59ts or 62ts presumably) as replacements for the IoW and found that actually the latter were in far worse condition due to said electrolytic corrosion.
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