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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 12:52:23 GMT
why does the branch line/loop on the side of the side of the line up to epping have the name of this particular station??
why not the redbridge loop (which i think sounds nicer anyway)
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Post by slugabed on Oct 5, 2012 12:58:32 GMT
Probably because trains used to tip-out at Hainault ("Hainault via Newbury Park" etc).
How did people refer to it in GE/LNER days?
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Post by bassmike on Oct 5, 2012 13:02:43 GMT
It was called the "Fairlop loop" before LT took over.
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Post by neilw on Oct 11, 2012 15:41:38 GMT
as bassmike says, it was known as the Fairlop loop from inception, being a loop from Ilford through Newbury Park to Woodford. There was, of course, no station at Redbridge at this time. When LU took over, Hainault was always planned to be the terminus of this leg, so I guess it made sense to name it that.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2012 19:40:32 GMT
In the Minutes of Rolling Stock meetings in the 1950s, the Hainault - Woodford section was referred to as the "Roding Valley Line" - yet another variation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 2:02:37 GMT
I agree with slugabed. That's probably because there is the Hainault depot there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 17:38:21 GMT
Also, it's not really a loop anymore. Trains usually terminate at Hainault or Woodford and then return to the city the way they came. No loop runnings.
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Post by neilw on Oct 14, 2012 13:54:45 GMT
there were no loop runnings until the 92TS came along. Originally,the 62TS needed to be kept the same way round so that all the A and D ends had the same geographical orientation in order that they could couple A to D in the event of a push-out being required. I think the same was true of the standard stock . Some trains of 62TS stabled at Hainault the "wrong way round" i.e. via Grange Hill, and great pains were taken to ensure they went back via the same route and did not get turned round. For whatever reason, I think it became less of an issue in the latter days of the 62TS. I have a picture of my car which is a D (and hence should face East) leading through Leyton on the WB.
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Post by superteacher on Oct 14, 2012 14:00:21 GMT
there were no loop runnings until the 92TS came along. Originally,the 62TS needed to be kept the same way round so that all the A and D ends had the same geographical orientation in order that they could couple A to D in the event of a push-out being required. I think the same was true of the standard stock . Some trains of 62TS stabled at Hainault the "wrong way round" i.e. via Grange Hill, and great pains were taken to ensure they went back via the same route and did not get turned round. For whatever reason, I think it became less of an issue in the latter days of the 62TS. I have a picture of my car which is a D (and hence should face East) leading through Leyton on the WB. Yes - the first "loop" timetable was WTT53 which came into force in November 1992, 5 months before the 92TS came into service. The previous timetable, WTT52, had a couple of trains that worked right round the loop in the peaks. WTT52 was the first timeable to use 1962 stock on the Woodford - Hainault service throughout the day. Previously, they used the 1960 stock as a shuttle, with peak hour 1962 stock trains starting from and terminating at Grange Hill. |
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Post by ruislip on Oct 14, 2012 18:24:35 GMT
Weren't there many peak-time trains that ran via Woodford to/from Grange Hill(primarily starting/terminating on the western end at either Northolt or Ruislip Gardens)?
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Post by superteacher on Oct 14, 2012 18:34:22 GMT
Weren't there many peak-time trains that ran via Woodford to/from Grange Hill(primarily starting/terminating on the western end at either Northolt or Ruislip Gardens)? Only on the peak "shoulders" i.e. trains starting and leaving service. They used to run to all western destinations, varying from timetable to timetable. WTT 53 had five trains leaving from Grange Hill to Central London in the morning peak, with five trains returning to stable at the end of the morning peak. There were a similar number in the pm peak. The current timetable has, I believe, five trains in the morning peak which start from Grange Hill, and two at the start of the evening peak. No trains are scheduled to run in the reverse direction though. |
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