CrossRail Explained

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CrossRail Explained Jul 31, 2012 15:22:21 GMT

Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 15:22:21 GMT

Good Afternoon Everyone,

There is something that troubles me and for which I still couldn't find an explanation.

What is the CrossRail project supposed to be? Is it a infrastructure project only, or is it a infrastructure + service project?

If the first, will be London Overground the service that will run on the CrossRail tunnels? Or are there other operators that will explore these tunnels?

If the last, what is the CrossLink service different from the Overground? Why another heavy-rail service when you could have only one doing that job?

It is important to me to understand this because instead of 4 rail services in TfL, there will be 5 instead. (I'm counting Tram Link has a rail based service)

Thank you for the help!

ducatisti

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CrossRail Explained Jul 31, 2012 15:53:16 GMT

Post by ducatisti on Jul 31, 2012 15:53:16 GMT

It depends what you mean by "Crossrail" is the short answer.
There is a big (very big) civil engineering project to build the tunnels. Associated with that is a tender process for combined trains and depot infrastructure package to provide trains to operate "Crossrail" services through the Crossrail tunnel.

This is the main cross-rail offer.

Why not London Overground? In the bright and shiny world of competition that we have, all services are run by franchises. LO is a franchise and this will be a seperate one.

There is also the ever-present turf-war between the National Rail/ATOC etc (who run heavy rail everywhere except London and one or two other metros) and LU who run the LU network.

Crossrail is different from LO as LO is a set of suburban rail services that run comparatviely low-density short-haul trains, many of which were abandoned by the main rail operators, and is funded by TfL. Crossrail is a high-density long-distance (all these terms are relative) network, that is intended to mesh with the wider NR network. It is closer to Thameslink that LO - ie a national train service that happens to stop at London rather than an intra-London service.

chrisvandenkieboom

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CrossRail Explained Jul 31, 2012 16:55:54 GMT

Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Jul 31, 2012 16:55:54 GMT

Crossrail is basically a NR line that runs right through Central London like Thameslink. London Overground is like ducatisti said, an franchise and CR will be another one, although LOROL running it is one of the possibilities. (another one would be FCC/whoever runs Thameslink by then)

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Deleted Deleted Member Posts: 0	CrossRail Explained Aug 1, 2012 0:51:31 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2012 0:51:31 GMT So, for now we can say that CrossRail is like TfL Coach Station? An infrastructure project solely? And CrossLink is to be used by Urban/Suburban Rail, or also by Regional and Long Distance services?

chrisvandenkieboom Posts: 991	CrossRail Explained Aug 1, 2012 9:59:03 GMT Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Aug 1, 2012 9:59:03 GMT It will be served only by urban/suburban rail services, and not by regional/long distance services.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 15:22:21 GMT

Post by ducatisti on Jul 31, 2012 15:53:16 GMT

Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Jul 31, 2012 16:55:54 GMT

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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Aug 1, 2012 9:59:03 GMT