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Post by rsdworker on Jul 24, 2012 0:01:45 GMT
i noticed differences on today's eastenders - the dot matrix has red text - the one in real is yellow text and few extra notices is seen
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Post by Colin on Jul 24, 2012 0:40:03 GMT
AFAIK, what they have on Eastenders is the mock up that was created prior to the refurbishment of the fleet.
Whilst there are differences with the actual refurb, they are small enough for the likes of them to get away with [given the large amount of 'artistic licence' they use].
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Post by trt on Jul 24, 2012 8:36:34 GMT
The "outward" trip showed a heavily vandalised train, whilst for the return, the windows were clear. That was a neat trick. But the interior poles and glass partitions were extremely flimsy - very BBC / Dr. Who.
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Post by neilw on Jul 24, 2012 9:54:20 GMT
also pulling the PEA stopped the train?
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Post by rsdworker on Jul 24, 2012 10:33:14 GMT
also pulling the PEA stopped the train? correct - in real - PEA will not cause emergency brake - i think the older - pre refurbishment trains had handles that connected to brake system
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 24, 2012 11:06:26 GMT
correct - in real - PEA will not cause emergency brake - i think the older - pre refurbishment trains had handles that connected to brake system Pulling the alarm handle on C and D Stock will initially cause a full brake application, depending where the trains stops will depend if the train can continue to the next station. It is true that prior to refurb C Stock handles worked directly on the train-line pipe.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2012 17:24:37 GMT
And it still had the door open controls attached which have since long gone since refurb
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2012 21:26:42 GMT
And it still had the door open controls attached which have since long gone since refurb I don't know if it is still the case on Eastenders, but even a decade after the C stock refurb, they were still using the sound effect of a C stock with its distictive and original high pitched (pre refurb) motor gear sound, when a train was heard and not seen going over the Albert Square bridge.
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 25, 2012 21:45:27 GMT
There is now a regular sighting of a computerised D Stock.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 11:51:04 GMT
We used to supply buses to Eastenders – And I sat for many hours staring at that bridge, waiting for someone to shout “Action”.
If you see a train passing over the bridge in Eastenders, its CGI. The actual bridge is a light weight construction which is designed to support its own weight but not much else. Basically it’s a prop. The bridge also has an acute turn which would make it impossible even for the DLR! As the bridge passes over George Street it bears left to pass over the Indian Restaurant and another street (the name of which I forget!). So within a few feet it has turned through about 40 degrees.
The ticket hall is fairly realistic. The timetable frame has a District Line poster with Walford replacing the real Bromley-By-Bow. Apparently the posters and other LUL specific items such as POMs were supplied by LUL. However as would be expected all the equipment is just a shell. The stairs inside the station actually go nowhere. As they lead up towards the roof they are suddenly curtailed by the ceiling. The back door (across the ticket hall) leads to Stage One and the Eastenders Canteen & production suite. This is used as a regular shortcut. The Gents Toilets built into the bridge parapet are also just a mock up. Out of camera shot – they too lead nowhere. Caught me out once!
The train noises are added in post-production. As are all the other noises such as people shouting and so on. In fact when they shoot the footage, only the voices of the actors can be heard. For moving car shots occasionally members of the production crew would push cars through shot (but just off camera) to avoid the noise of the engine. For some takes we had to move off in the bus under power, then cut the engine immediately once you had got the vehicle moving. This way you coasted past the camera. No sound at all. All very well but it made steering and braking difficult.
The former Bill studios at Merton, now renamed Wimbledon Studios, have built a mock-up of a Eurostar carriage interior. Think they might have a few pictures of it on their website.
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Post by trt on Jul 26, 2012 12:15:15 GMT
It has been noted that the gateline at Walford station seems to accept Oyster-cards presented to either the left or right hand reader pad!
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 26, 2012 12:28:52 GMT
It's always annoyed me that Eastenders don't use London Buses or even a bus that looks like a London Bus!
I believe this has been discussed before, as for the platforms at the station different stations are used (normally on the Northern Line) which also bugs me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 13:05:29 GMT
It's always annoyed me that Eastenders don't use London Buses or even a bus that looks like a London Bus! The answer to that conundrum is as follows: We used to supply the buses for about three or four years. We had special blinds printed for the buses, and went to a great deal of effort to get the image right. However the BBC decided to replace the Action Vehicles buyer who booked the buses. So a new Company was bought in to look after the cars on set and hire in special vehicles as needed. Unfortunately that new company decided not to use any of the previous suppliers. That’s their prerogative. But the new company used a very good friend of mine who ran Carousel in High Wycombe. So you could argue it was still within the family. Although despite the previous chaps attention to detail, the new company seemed less bothered. Thats good for Carousel! But frankly I have no desire to return to Eastenders. It’s just down the road from my office, we always did our best to help, but we were never treated with any respect on set. I don’t expect red carpet treatment, but I don’t like being spoken to like a nine-year old. For us – filming is fun to do – Its not just about money. So if your not enjoying it, time to do something else!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 13:06:13 GMT
Okay this is where a railway enthusiast comes along and ruins everything, just a few nitpicky things I've noticed here...
1. You think LUL would really be happy about that scene that depicts graffiti covering all of the windows? This seems a bit un-realistic too, its very rare (if not impossible) you'll see a train running in service with uncleaned graff these days, unlike ten years ago.
2. The SA in the booking hall at Walford East is always wearing his uniform hat, when do you ever see that on the underground?
3. The way the mock up seems to sway from side to side is a bit over the top, if the train was really like that in real life you'd probably nauseous!
4. The train arcs far too much, when have you ever been on a train that draws an arc that often? in reality you only ever get that on points and conductor rail gaps usually during rainy conditions.
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Post by Deep Level on Jul 26, 2012 13:13:26 GMT
I'm the same as you ajax, I'll be watching it commenting on everything that's unrealistic on it. When you use the term 'arcs' would that be explaining the sparks seen every 2 seconds?
I remember recently when it was used we saw a scene outside of the train for the first time which happened to be Barking Station, the train came out of a tunnel directly into Barking :/.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2012 13:18:08 GMT
Yeah thats right Deep Level.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 26, 2012 14:27:48 GMT
1. You think LUL would really be happy about that scene that depicts graffiti covering all of the windows? This seems a bit un-realistic too, its very rare (if not impossible) you'll see a train running in service with uncleaned graff these days, unlike ten years ago. Without wishing to open this can-of-worms again, I'm afraid it is possible at the extremes of the day to see this eventuality on the Line in question.
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Post by rsdworker on Jul 26, 2012 14:52:23 GMT
1. You think LUL would really be happy about that scene that depicts graffiti covering all of the windows? This seems a bit un-realistic too, its very rare (if not impossible) you'll see a train running in service with uncleaned graff these days, unlike ten years ago. Without wishing to open this can-of-worms again, I'm afraid it is possible at the extremes of the day to see this eventuality on the Line in question. only very rarely seen in service with graffiti so sometimes if train has been had small scale of graffiti such like scratchs on windows
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Post by superteacher on Aug 1, 2012 22:04:48 GMT
Without wishing to open this can-of-worms again, I'm afraid it is possible at the extremes of the day to see this eventuality on the Line in question. only very rarely seen in service with graffiti so sometimes if train has been had small scale of graffiti such like scratchs on windows I've seen carriages plastered in graffiti running in service on several occasions in the past year or so. It is the exception these days though.
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