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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 18:32:22 GMT
Hi
This morning I saw a D stock leaving Wimbledon showing Wimbledon Park as the destination. Clearly a mistake or a fault, but what would happen on board, announcement-wise? Would it say "the next station is Wimbledon Park, this train terminates, all change" etc? Does the t/op hear what the announcements are saying and therefore get to change them in time?
Could have resulted in interesting scenes at Wimbledon Park!
Thanks
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Post by uzairjubilee on Apr 24, 2012 18:42:10 GMT
A very rare destination! Upon departing Wimbledon, the DVA would have announced: "The next station is Wimbledon Park, where this train terminates. Please take all your belongings with you when you leave the train. All change please" - Cue confused faces. At Wimbledon Park, the DVA would have said "This is Wimbledon Park, where this train terminates. Please take all your belongings with you when you leave the train. All change please"
I think the T/Op can hear the DVA ever so slightly from the cab, but it depends on noise levels in the saloon. Wimbledon Park have been set accidentally. I'm not sure.
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Post by kabsonline on Apr 24, 2012 18:47:30 GMT
Would it not be more sensible if the T/Op could hear announcements so on these rare occasions when a wrong destination is set, they are able to tell and amend it. What is it like with other stocks with the driver being able to hear announcements?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2012 19:36:52 GMT
Would it not be more sensible if the T/Op could hear announcements so on these rare occasions when a wrong destination is set, they are able to tell and amend it. What is it like with other stocks with the driver being able to hear announcements? There are more important things to be listening out for. As for the DVA surely it's not too difficult to check...
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Post by Colin on Apr 25, 2012 15:02:40 GMT
In relation to the OP - what happened was the train op has set the PIS up too quickly; they pressed the enter button as soon as they we're offered the list of destinations, and because they did it so quickly the system takes it to mean you want the first available destination.
Wimbledon Park would have been announced as the terminus, but I'm sure most passengers would simply ignore it - this won't have been the first time a train has been set up this way in error (.......if I had a pound for every Upminster Bridge train departing Upminster.....) - the train will still depart Wimbledon Park without hindrance and the DVA/displays will simply appear to be switched off.
Now in terms of DVA intrusion into the cab, this really depends on two factors - noise inside the leading car and track noise from outside. If you have a few passengers talking loudly near the cab, or a deaf person listening to their ipod, the DVA can easily be drowned out. It's certainly difficult to hear on the move sometimes as the track noise can overcome the DVA - and if it's raining the window wipers nearly always drown it out.
The driver will no doubt notice the lack of DVA's later in the journey, and they may also spot the lack of destination display in mirrors as they arrive at platforms - though of course they may not know why the DVA/displays have apparently stopped working.
Of course if a driver checks the front of their train prior to departure they would likely spot the error, but none of us are perfect!!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Apr 25, 2012 15:59:50 GMT
Upon refurb there was a proposal have a CIS speaker in the cab of D Stock, thankfully it was never wired up.
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Post by adehare2012 on Apr 25, 2012 18:09:55 GMT
Upon refurb there was a proposal have a CIS speaker in the cab of D Stock, thankfully it was never wired up. Hmmm, one way to send the drivers round the twist, hearing that thing all through the shift. Yes, dont get me wrong, to someone like me who can't see anything in front of them, they are useful, but I'm only stuck with them for a few stations, not for hours at a time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2012 20:54:45 GMT
Thanks Colin - that's really interesting! Explains it all.
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Post by kabsonline on Apr 27, 2012 12:14:26 GMT
Talking of odd announcements on the District. I was on the District yesterday travelling from Victoria to Westmister. When I boarded the train the DVA did not do the usual "This is Victoria bla bla bla". Instead it came through saying something like this "There are beggers and buskers operating on this train. Please do not encourage them". It kept repeating this with the next station announcements coming through between stops. This is a bit of a strange announcement to have don't you think? This was the DVA and not the driver btw. Is it really a situation where a repetitious announcement is needed?
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Post by t697 on Apr 27, 2012 17:34:26 GMT
Talking of odd announcements on the District. I was on the District yesterday travelling from Victoria to Westmister. When I boarded the train the DVA did not do the usual "This is Victoria bla bla bla". Instead it came through saying something like this "There are beggers and buskers operating on this train. Please do not encourage them". It kept repeating this with the next station announcements coming through between stops. This is a bit of a strange announcement to have don't you think? This was the DVA and not the driver btw. Is it really a situation where a repetitious announcement is needed? That's a driver selectable pre-recorded message. Not sure why it would be given repetitively as a fault condition. Perhaps the driver was aware of specific beggars on the train going from car to car at stations and was trying to warn passengers/get the beggars to leave.
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