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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 18:25:03 GMT
Has anyone noticed the travelling times between these two stations. Yet when you drive between them on the A12 it takes about a minute! A lot quicker.
I guess the track must do some sort of big loop outwards?
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Post by North End on Apr 3, 2012 18:27:21 GMT
Has anyone noticed the travelling times between these two stations. Yet when you drive between them on the A12 it takes about a minute! A lot quicker. I guess the track must do some sort of big loop outwards? Yes the line is initially on an east/west alignment, curves southwards, and then a long curve in order to take it on to the north/south alighment of the former GER line through Newbury Park. To give an idea of where the line runs, there is a vent shaft at Middleton Gardens. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 19:16:18 GMT
when you drive between them on the A12 it takes about a minute! Subsequent to Mr Cameron's comments about petrol the other day it was more like 15 minutes as panic stricken drivers queued up for fuel just short of Newbury Park on the A12 eastbound causing severe congestion. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank them, one and all.  When I was young (and 62TS were only a decade or so old) I recall the old alignment to Ilford/Seven Kings visible as the train descended into tunnel and by avidly watching the carriages ahead bending to the right (west) was able to form a fairly accurate picture in my mind of the Central Line alignment in this area. I'm also fairly sure there were some tracks still on the Ilford alignment although I could be wrong here. |
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Post by superteacher on Apr 3, 2012 20:50:35 GMT
when you drive between them on the A12 it takes about a minute! Subsequent to Mr Cameron's comments about petrol the other day it was more like 15 minutes as panic stricken drivers queued up for fuel just short of Newbury Park on the A12 eastbound causing severe congestion. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank them, one and all. When I was young (and 62TS were only a decade or so old) I recall the old alignment to Ilford/Seven Kings visible as the train descended into tunnel and by avidly watching the carriages ahead bending to the right (west) was able to form a fairly accurate picture in my mind of the Central Line alignment in this area. I'm also fairly sure there were some tracks still on the Ilford alignment although I could be wrong here. There was a siding (unelectrified) south of Newbury Park until the early 90's, but I think the remainder of the track towards Seven Kings went in the 60's. Like you, I used to imagine where the train was once it went into the tunnel! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 20:56:50 GMT
Has anyone noticed the travelling times between these two stations. Yet when you drive between them on the A12 it takes about a minute! A lot quicker. I guess the track must do some sort of big loop outwards? Yes the line is initially on an east/west alignment, curves southwards, and then a long curve in order to take it on to the north/south alighment of the former GER line through Newbury Park. To give an idea of where the line runs, there is a vent shaft at Middleton Gardens. When you say vent shaft, is that a grate with holes in on the pavement as such ? Like the metro in new York for example? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 22:11:34 GMT
I would assume that this is the Vent Shaft on Middleton Gardens. maps.google.ie/maps?q=Middleton+Gardens,+Ilford,+United+Kingdom&hl=en&ll=51.574576,0.077376&spn=0.000013,0.010568&sll=51.572215,0.080981&sspn=0.013923,0.058622&oq=mid&hnear=Middleton+Gardens,+Ilford,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.572887,0.075234&panoid=T-4fVRJbedMfHrYjlUlw8w&cbp=12,30.57,,0,-3.9 |
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Post by auxsetreq on Apr 6, 2012 8:52:30 GMT
Has anyone noticed the travelling times between these two stations. Yet when you drive between them on the A12 it takes about a minute! A lot quicker. I guess the track must do some sort of big loop outwards? In that direction by train it's two minutes and thirty two seconds. On foot about a year. We started an after hours track walk some time ago. We're still down there now........... |
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Post by crusty54 on Apr 6, 2012 10:08:32 GMT
There's a tunnel vent fan at Middleton Gardens
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 6, 2012 14:07:29 GMT
I also assume that the curves mean slower speed?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2012 16:18:36 GMT
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Post by charleyfarley on Apr 7, 2012 19:40:55 GMT
Am I correct in assuming that the Central is the most twisty turny line on the network
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Post by slugabed on Apr 7, 2012 19:53:04 GMT
Am I correct in assuming that the Central is the most twisty turny line on the network I'd have thought the Bakerloo would win on that score....though how are degrees of twisty-turniness measured? |
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Post by charleyfarley on Apr 7, 2012 20:35:54 GMT
I was thinking about the stretch between Shepherd's Bush and White City
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 7, 2012 21:16:26 GMT
Well contenders would be the Central Line Shepherds Bush - White City, Liverpool Street - St Pauls, Bakerloo Line Elephant & Castle - Embankment, Charing Cross - Oxford Circus, Regents Park - Baker Street, Edgware Road - Kilburn Park and Piccadilly Line Knightsbridge - South Kensington.
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Post by alfie on Apr 7, 2012 21:52:25 GMT
How about the W&C?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2012 6:13:27 GMT
Between 20 and 60 kph SB, 20 and 55 NB. I also assume that the curves mean slower speed? Not between GAH and NEP, 65kph all the way. |
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Post by v52gc on Apr 9, 2012 8:18:57 GMT
Well contenders would be the Central Line Shepherds Bush - White City, Liverpool Street - St Pauls, Bakerloo Line Elephant & Castle - Embankment, Charing Cross - Oxford Circus, Regents Park - Baker Street, Edgware Road - Kilburn Park and Piccadilly Line Knightsbridge - South Kensington. And Piccadilly Line Holborn-Covent Garden and South of North Ealing  |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2012 19:25:45 GMT
When I lived in Newbury Park the Eastbound Central ran underneath the garden. The line to Ilford was filled in by spoil from the dual carriageway works of the A12. I can remember a steam coal train came into the siding most nights to supply coal to the yards around the Fairlop loop. If any coal dropped from the tender it was my job to hop over the fence and pick it up - darn good coal kept the coal fire burning for hours!
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Post by 1018509 on Jun 10, 2012 15:17:46 GMT
..... there is a vent shaft at Middleton Gardens. I looked on street view I take it the vent shaft is the square brick structure between two houses. It looks like a local supply transformer site is there as well. No notices on the gate. |
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