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Post by revupminster on Apr 3, 2012 17:18:14 GMT
My first post: I remember 1975, 1980, & 1981 when West Ham FC played at Wembley and the undeground ran four specials that called all stations to Aldgate East then non stop to Wembley Park. Can anyone remember what stock? was it COCP? I remember the trains being decked out in West Ham colours probably by the drivers. With S7 stock will we see it again in the unlikely event West Ham get to Wembley again. The playoffs this season might be too soon.
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Post by elsombernie on Apr 3, 2012 18:04:14 GMT
I used one of these specials back in 1975. I seem to recall that it was 'C' stock.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 18:52:44 GMT
Definitely C Stock at that time.
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Post by revupminster on Apr 3, 2012 19:06:00 GMT
Were not C's banned beyond Barking because they swiped the platforms at Elm Park and Heathway. I seem to recall some transverse seats.
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Post by Ben on Apr 3, 2012 19:41:52 GMT
Indeed, they had transverse bays before refurbishment!  Can't find a pic online atm... |
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Post by revupminster on Apr 4, 2012 7:50:41 GMT
I still have COCP in my mind and how did they get round the ban on C stock beyond Barking which in the District line thread says they were only cleared for passenger service a couple of years ago. I certainly remember in the late 1990's, two c stock were stabled at Upminster and in passenger service and this lasted for a week because they hit the platform edges when laden.
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Post by Colin on Apr 4, 2012 9:38:17 GMT
They weren't 'banned' when they were introduced  The 'ban' came into effect some time in the late 90's or early 2000's, I believe, and was owing to the possibility of striking the platform edge at Dagenham East. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 10:55:56 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Apr 4, 2012 11:22:32 GMT
Takes me back! Seems like yesterday that they looked like this, but in fact it's been 20 years since the refurbs. |
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Post by Deep Level on Apr 4, 2012 15:34:26 GMT
I really like that, it looks very cosy and comfortable. |
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Post by revupminster on Apr 11, 2012 15:31:12 GMT
As West Ham FC might be at Wembley this season on May 19th, will we see a special service as in the "old days"? What stock would be used? Or as more likely "modern technology" will not be able to cope for safety reasons.
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Post by kabsonline on Apr 11, 2012 15:56:47 GMT
If you had the S7s running by then (you won't do but if you did), it would be very possible:)
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Post by revupminster on Apr 18, 2012 7:30:56 GMT
Now there is an even chance West Ham FC could be at Wembley on the 19th May, have the planners been working on any specials. I would love to see an S8 but I expect they will tell supporters to travel via West Ham and the Jubilee Line.
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Post by castlebar on Apr 18, 2012 7:42:32 GMT
@ revupminster > > You asked "have the planners been working on any specials" and l would say, "Probably, but the way things work in the railway industry these days, the decision won't be made until after 19th May"
"Planners" generally plan...............to defer a decision and have another meeting, (generally with a nice lunch at the end of it).
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Post by revupminster on Apr 18, 2012 10:35:22 GMT
I always found the planners would have something cleaned and painted before knocking it down.
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Post by castlebar on Apr 18, 2012 10:46:05 GMT
............yes,
and they failed to see the need for a railway into Heathrow, so shut down the West Drayton to Staines branch in the early 60s and built the M25 over it.
On the other hand, a foresighted planner would have used it to run through services from both Waterloo and Paddington at one tenth of the cost of what we ended up with.
It's what planners "do"
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Post by revupminster on May 7, 2012 17:29:01 GMT
I thought I had better revive this post to see if a special service could be provided as West Ham have got to Wembley. There is no engineering works on the District or Met on the 19th May
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2012 23:47:47 GMT
I thought I had better revive this post to see if a special service could be provided as West Ham have got to Wembley. There is no engineering works on the District or Met on the 19th May No such luck, just the normal 2 extra trains (470/471) that work the return extras from Wembley Park to Moorgate (as required). |
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Post by messiah on May 13, 2012 11:42:03 GMT
............yes, and they failed to see the need for a railway into Heathrow, so shut down the West Drayton to Staines branch in the early 60s and built the M25 over it. On the other hand, a foresighted planner would have used it to run through services from both Waterloo and Paddington at one tenth of the cost of what we ended up with. It's what planners "do" Wonder how much extra the M25 would have cost without that alignment? |
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Post by Dstock7080 on May 13, 2012 12:12:40 GMT
and they failed to see the need for a railway into Heathrow, so shut down the West Drayton to Staines branch in the early 60s and built the M25 over it. I thought the Staines branch still ran under the M25? g.co/maps/27xg6 (crossing SW<>NE) |
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Post by castlebar on May 13, 2012 13:11:19 GMT
Well Dstock, check it out for yourself. Passenger services were ceased about 50 years ago and the connection at to the SR at Staines taken out. The bit from W Drayton supplied a scrapyard and oil refinery once, but pax traffic now impossible. It doesn't "still run" because it didn't suit "the suits" when closing everything was the order of the day. Just as they couldn't shut the Varsity Line fast enough when they already knew Milton Keynes was about to quadruple in size. The same thing applies everywhere but the lines that had any chance of re-opening were lifted and built over first, (E Grinstead - Three Bridges/(Gatwick), Southwater, Steyning, Henfield etc. But this is the wrong thread to discuss all these. It all makes me get angry, anyway
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Post by norbitonflyer on May 13, 2012 16:15:39 GMT
I thought the Staines branch still ran under the M25? g.co/maps/27xg6 (crossing SW<>NE) It does, but it now ends at Poyle. It was used by trains supplying the construction project at Terminal 5, and still serves an aviation fuel depot at Colnbrook. The section buried under the M25 is further south, betrween Junction 13 and 14, next to the Wraysbury Reservoir - you can see the reamining trackbed (running N-S across the middle of this view and again here (the eastern edge of the industrial estate) The line was severed considerably less than 50 years ago - nearer thirty (1981), although the last passenger services ran in 1965. A connection to the Southern was built in 1940 to allow the route to be used as a diversionary route, and continued to allow access to Staines West fuel terminal until closure in 1991. |
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