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Post by auxsetreq on Apr 2, 2012 9:35:56 GMT
Damn n blast! I never ever thought to take a picture of that antique at the end of District Line platform 7 at Ealing Broadway. A missed opportunity, but I never ever thought it was going to go. It has always been there. Many times I used to clamber over the thing to get to the old staff loos, and many times bollocked in the process by an area manager who'd be hiding with nothing better to do. The only picture of it I have is from a District Line training DVD and it's not that good. But I'll take a screen shot of it and post it up.........If anyone has a better pic of it please stick it up. It's gone to the museum by all accounts and it was moved to make way for the longer District Line S trains. A lateral wooden bar attached to a greased piston which then went into a large iron or steel cylinder with a strange vertical reservoir poking out on top. It was a buffer which went back to the days of steam so I was told. I imagine the District Line guys will be in for a surprise when they go to Ealing Bdy today. Those going into 7 will be able to smash through the railings and park their leading cab right outside the staff loos negating the necessity of having to walk 'round. After which a short hop to the pasty shop for a full-on hot treat with extra VAT on the side. Lucky them.......... i43.tinypic.com/idx2rl.jpg |
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Post by castlebar on Apr 2, 2012 10:12:44 GMT
I remember the Ealing District weird thing from 60 years ago when l was a mere four and three quarters
I remember the old District Line Station had a separate entrance to the Central Line & GWR joint station. Do l remember the Central Line ends had these "weird things" too, and was there one in the redundant bay platform at S Ken?? I am certain that 60 years ago, the Ealing District one was not unique.
Regards, Castlebar (age 64 and three quarters). How old would Adrian Mole be now??
PS, Traycat & Straycat send their regards to Ceiling Cat
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Post by slugabed on Apr 2, 2012 10:30:11 GMT
As a fan of weird things in general,and these weird things in particular,I am very sad to see this bit of history disappear.
I noticed the Ealing one some years ago (Ealing isn't a place I go that often) then I noticed one at Putney Bridge,and wrote on DD asking where else they could be found.
Mansion House was mentioned,as was the fact that they would all soon be gone as they were not "S-Stock Compliant" in today's argot.
It was also whispered that a stack of them resided on the Doiwn platform of the old Osterley station,so on my next trip to Hounslow to collect bee-hive equipment I paid special attention....there they were,hidden in the undergrowth.
A shame they will disappear from use,the network becomes a little blander,but glad at least one will find its way into the Museum,and I dare say those at Osterley aren't going anywhere in a hurry...
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Post by Chris M on Apr 2, 2012 10:47:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 10:49:41 GMT
Damn thats a shame theyre gone, my mum used to say they were soup cookers for the drivers! As a joke of course
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Post by slugabed on Apr 2, 2012 10:53:46 GMT
From the 27 February 2008 edition of the quiz: (click for a larger version) Now there's a photo and a half! Round the front,isn't there a little plate saying "Patent Hydraulic...blablabla" I can't remember the rest....now is there a photo of THAT? ...And,at the risk of controversy (and serious thread-drift) wouldn't it have been cleverer to build the S-Stock to fit the Network,rather than vice versa... ....Just asking. |
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Post by Chris M on Apr 2, 2012 11:04:34 GMT
Now there's a photo and a half! Thank you! ...And,at the risk of controversy (and serious thread-drift) wouldn't it have been cleverer to build the S-Stock to fit the Network,rather than vice versa... There are two options when designing new trains - make them fit the existing network, or alter the network to fit the existing trains. In every case you can bet your bottom dollar that the benefits and costs of doing both are investigated, even if in many cases altering the network is a non-starter. However, in the case of the S stock it has obviously been determined that the benefits the longer, higher capacity, air conditioned, etc trains bring outweighs the cost of the modifications to the network required to make them fit. |
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Post by auxsetreq on Apr 2, 2012 11:42:38 GMT
Ceiling Cat and I are grateful to Tray and Stray cat and all who posted pictures of the weird things. I'm gonna miss that thing at Ealing and even though I've not had any need to clamber over it for years, I now feel the urge, but sadly I can't do it as it's now gone..........
When I was on the Picc I was told that a ballast train hit one of those things or something similar at Cockfosters. It shot oil out all over the place and took an age to get rid of.
Another thing I'd like to get my hands on is one of those old lamp standards that you can see leaving Ealing over on the District side. You know, the metal ones with the circle at the top and the bulb hanging down within it. I'd love to restore one and install it in my garden. Though getting one through the M and J doors and into the saloon might prove difficult and I don't think the punters would approve. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they've gone too and ended up in a skip somewhere or sold to a scrap dealers............
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Post by bruce on Apr 2, 2012 19:30:58 GMT
I believe that there is one at the end of 24 road at Queens Park, may also be one at the end of 25 & 26 roads but cannot remember. I think that there is something similar at the end of the disused siding at Euston Northern City Branch but its been over 30 years since I went down to the end of the siding.
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Post by charleyfarley on Apr 2, 2012 19:45:33 GMT
There are two options when designing new trains - make them fit the existing network, or alter the network to fit the existing trains. In every case you can bet your bottom dollar that the benefits and costs of doing both are investigated, even if in many cases altering the network is a non-starter. However, in the case of the S stock it has obviously been determined that the benefits the longer, higher capacity, air conditioned, etc trains bring outweighs the cost of the modifications to the network required to make them fit. In terms of width and length, why were the S stock not designed to the same dimensions as the A stock? It seems senseless to pay millions for new trains and then spend millions more reconfiguring the system to accommodate them. The S stock is apparently 9 inches wider and the cars over 1 meter longer than the A stock. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2012 20:01:10 GMT
The buffer stop is still behind the wall from platform 4, you can see it if you look correctly, Im pretty sure its not hydraulic though
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Post by andypurk on Apr 2, 2012 20:09:27 GMT
There are two options when designing new trains - make them fit the existing network, or alter the network to fit the existing trains. In every case you can bet your bottom dollar that the benefits and costs of doing both are investigated, even if in many cases altering the network is a non-starter. However, in the case of the S stock it has obviously been determined that the benefits the longer, higher capacity, air conditioned, etc trains bring outweighs the cost of the modifications to the network required to make them fit. In terms of width and length, why were the S stock not designed to the same dimensions as the A stock? It seems senseless to pay millions for new trains and then spend millions more reconfiguring the system to accommodate them. The S stock is apparently 9 inches wider and the cars over 1 meter longer than the A stock. As Chris M said, to give more capacity. 1 meter longer per car is approximately an extra half car length per train. On the District line, having a common 7 car length train will also give more capacity per train, especially for those replacing C-stock. |
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Post by compsci on Apr 2, 2012 21:46:30 GMT
Having rummaged in my attic (it would be one of the few images that I hadn't got round to geotagging yet) I've come up with this:  You can't quite read the plate on the front, but it's safe to say that the piston qualifies as being greased. |
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Post by ruislip on Apr 3, 2012 5:31:49 GMT
I thought the "weird thing" was the solid roundel at the end of the District platforms  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 6:40:47 GMT
I am surprised that there was not a preservation order on this structure. Another bit of history sacrificed at alter of the articulated drink cans!  XF |
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Post by auxsetreq on Apr 3, 2012 7:05:40 GMT
This is a problem for poor old Ceiling Cat. Not only can she shift instantly in space, but in time too. Sometimes she doesn't know when she is let alone where........... Here's the weird thing's replacement. Another weird thing that looks like it's straight out of Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory. Clamber over that and it'll eat you up and spit you out as Mars Bars. Ceiling Cat took this sometime next year.......... i39.tinypic.com/dwwi6e.jpgOh, and celebrate. The old lampposts are still there. I want the one with the two old light bulbs hanging down from the shade. A representation of the worst case of piles ever seen............. i41.tinypic.com/27yp1t.jpg |
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Post by cso on Apr 3, 2012 11:04:09 GMT
Isn't the 'new weird thing' an S-Stock arrestor(?)?
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Post by Colin on Apr 3, 2012 16:57:51 GMT
It is indeed
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Post by Tom on Apr 3, 2012 18:56:30 GMT
I believe that there is one at the end of 24 road at Queens Park, may also be one at the end of 25 & 26 roads but cannot remember. I think that there is something similar at the end of the disused siding at Euston Northern City Branch but its been over 30 years since I went down to the end of the siding. I can't now recall what's at the end of the two disused roads at Baker St behind the wall of platform 4. There were certainly buffer stops there, the furthest away of the two roads being in the boiler room of Chiltern Court as I recall although I haven't seen that area for many years (late 1980s) and it may well have been redeveloped by now. I've got a photo of part of one of the Baker Street ones half way down the platform, while it was being removed. Sadly the only photos I had of the Ealing ones were on my Digital compact which was stolen last week.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2012 22:20:13 GMT
I don't have a picture of that particular set of buffers but I do have the ones on p 8 and p 9. I suppose these will be gotten rid of as well? smu.gs/HlXaZI |
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Post by bassmike on Apr 4, 2012 11:18:59 GMT
there used to be one on the origional westerly platform at stanmore with ordinary bufferstops on the other one. Dont know if its still there
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 18:17:37 GMT
I believe that there is one at the end of 24 road at Queens Park, may also be one at the end of 25 & 26 roads but cannot remember. I've no idea of the exact location but I spotted one at the west end of the carriage shed at Queens Park this morning. 'Soup cooker' immediately came to mind. Painted blue from the brief glimpse I got. Andy |
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Post by Ben on Apr 4, 2012 18:56:11 GMT
bassmike: would this have been the reason why surface stock was banned from reversing in platform 1?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2012 19:36:12 GMT
bassmike: would this have been the reason why surface stock was banned from reversing in platform 1? As posted above, a tube train in platform 7 with a surface stock buffer stop, naughty, naughty! www.flickr.com/photos/16299801@N03/5726429045/ |
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Post by Tom on Apr 4, 2012 19:54:39 GMT
there used to be one on the origional westerly platform at stanmore with ordinary bufferstops on the other one. Dont know if its still there As I understand Platforms 5 and 6 at Ealing Broadway had similar Hydraulic Buffers until the late 1970s. |
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Post by bassmike on Apr 5, 2012 12:54:27 GMT
I'm sure that surface stock has reversed in plat: 1 at stanmore. Plat: two had ordinary buffers but with a lower tube height bar across lower down. Plat: two also had an engine release crossover which I sw used with much sparking on the wembley park to new cross gate railtour in think 1961
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Post by Colin on Apr 5, 2012 17:15:05 GMT
I don't have a picture of that particular set of buffers but I do have the ones on p 8 and p 9. I suppose these will be gotten rid of as well? You suppose right!! Taken by myself this afternoon:  |
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