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Post by 1018509 on Mar 22, 2012 21:44:45 GMT
I can recall one when over a weekend at Rayners Lane during a junction possession the Piccadilly was suspended South Harrow to Rayners Lane and the Met ran an Uxbridge/Rayners shuttle service on both lines so that either to or from Uxbridge could be a wrong direction movement.
I could just picture the faces of anyone with a remote interest in the railway at their windows of houses along the route thinking "Did I really see a train going the wrong way?"
I remember one keen LT gricer turning up to photograph (a still picture) of an A60 departing NB from the SB platform. How could you tell anything was different from a photograph?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2012 22:23:14 GMT
Headlights, destination, driver being in the 'wrong end'
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Post by 1018509 on Mar 22, 2012 22:55:44 GMT
Headlights, destination, driver being in the 'wrong end' Yes, I know but head and tailight switches were all manual and the guard could have been in the rear cab. I can't remember the date of this, but it is possible that a guard was still on the A60's and if near OPO, could have been in the rear cab. Still a bit of a pointless photograph in my opinion, but it's only my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2012 23:32:49 GMT
It was in the latter part of the 1980s - exact date not to hand - 2x4-car units were used, one on each track, 5070 unit on the EB line (train 31)and 5076 unit on the WB line (train 32). It was in the autumn time as it was a sunny day but with long shadows on the photos  Interestingly, the opposite end of 5076 (i.e. 5077) was the one with the A62 destination blind box - i.e. the double 'lip' around it. Edit 23/3/12 - And 5076 was one recently scrapped, too. Just found date - 12/13.10.85 !! All other info as Harsig says. |
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Post by Harsig on Mar 23, 2012 0:53:46 GMT
I remember being told about this before. I was left with the impression that this was in connection with the remodelling of the junction as part of the resignalling scheme for Rayners Lane. If this is so then it was circa 1985.
I also remember hearing that a spare train was stabled in platform 2/3 at Uxbridge for use in case the train working on the westbound road became defective. In that eventuality the defective train would have been left in platform 1 with the new train working between Rayners Lane platform 1 and Uxbridge platform 2/3. While this change to the operation was being effected the service could be maintained by the train on the eastbound road.
In the event that the train working on the eastbound road became defective it would have been swapped over with one of the trains stabled in Uxbridge sidings. This could be done without affecting the operation of the train on the westbound. To swap a train on the westbound with one in Uxbridge Sidings would have necessitated suspending the service on both roads, hence the provision of a spare train in the platform exclusively for the westbound service.
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Post by metman on Mar 23, 2012 10:25:00 GMT
It was in the latter part of the 1980s - exact date not to hand - 2x4-car units were used, one on each track, 5070 unit on the EB line (train 31)and 5076 unit on the WB line (train 32). It was in the autumn time as it was a sunny day but with long shadows on the photos Interestingly, the opposite end of 5076 (i.e. 5077) was the one with the A62 destination blind box - i.e. the double 'lip' around it. Edit 23/3/12 - And 5076 was one recently scrapped, too. Just found date - 12/13.10.85 !! All other info as Harsig says. Did 5077 have beading round the desination blind? Was it retro-fitted as there is a picture of 5077 in Steam to Silver next to P and F stock and it does not appear to have the beading. The Met went OPO in 1986 so I would assume many of the units would have been converted at least partly by then. Where is this photo. 5071 and 5077 would have retained their marker lights until refurb(?) but 5070 and 5076 would have been upgrade to headlights perhaps? Wasn't a condition of single line working to have both head and tail lights operating? |
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Post by Colin D on Mar 23, 2012 12:56:59 GMT
Wasn't a condition of single line working to have both head and tail lights operating? It's been awhile but I'm 99.9% sure both head and tail lights showing for single line working. edit: It's not single line working but "wrong way" working that required head/tail lights showing. Chesham and Epping/Ongar shuttles show(ed) normal lights |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2012 17:19:13 GMT
"Did 5077 have beading round the destination blind? Was it retro-fitted as there is a picture of 5077 in Steam to Silver next to P and F stock and it does not appear to have the beading."
"The Met went OPO in 1986 so I would assume many of the units would have been converted at least partly by then. Where is this photo. 5071 and 5077 would have retained their marker lights until refurb(?) but 5070 and 5076 would have been upgrade to headlights perhaps?"
The A62 type blind box (with the lip) was fitted to 5077 after a collision, most likely in the 1960s - I have no reference in my files of that unit going to Acton Works after 1967 for anything other than heavy overhaul.
And I have the photo of it on the (westbound) single line shuttle mentioned above.
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Post by 1018509 on Mar 23, 2012 19:41:41 GMT
I remember this operation so well because it was while I was call point man at Rayners Lane for 12 hour shifts on the Saturday and Sunday.
A great time for a Piccadilly Line man - no Piccs and 2 units of Met. If I remember correctly I played Scrabble most of the day in the signal cabin.
I always found it strange that the Piccadilly supplied the call point staff at Rayners Lane yet on the night turn we covered the sidings at Uxbridge although in my early years there (1973) we assisted at South Harrow sidings during the night.
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