Post by metroland on Mar 15, 2012 15:32:24 GMT
Some of you will know I’ve been trying to get Underground Train Red ‘right’ - bearing in mind colour is very subjective, and the emulsion on old colour film types can vary.
Train red in the 50’s and early 60’s was darker than bus red (though later on it all became bus red ).
One of the problems (even allowing for variations in film) seems to me that train red was very bright when applied - to the extent of having a slight orange tint. It quickly greyed, so for stock that had been around for a while the colour was quite different from when cars were released to traffic.
Peugeot Cherry (Red) was said to be good for representing the red but I wasn’t sure when I tried it at first (but see later).
I’ve had a couple of Little Bus Company resin kits for several years that I got on a well known auction site - a Q23 driver and a Q38 trailer. I was hoping for some Q27 or Q35 bodies to come up but they never seem to - trying to get a varied rake.
Anyway, I thought I’d have a go at these. Since I have nothing else to complete the set, I might as well have 2 different Q body colours in order to practice. First up, the Q38 trailer which I sprayed Nissan Flame Red. This feels ‘right’ to me for newly overhauled stock, and although it’s bright, I don’t expect to have many (if any) more cars this colour, feel it is ok.
Next up, the Q23 driver. The top coat on this is Peugeot Cherry. I wasn’t altogether happy with this until I started weathering. This seemed to bring it to life a lot, especially as the Q23 has many panels for dirt to get caught in the corners.
My normal method (above the frames) is to coat with a mix of Joes Model Trains acrylics. These are sold for weathering track and rails but I find them equally good for weathering stock. My mix for this was 3 parts Dark Brown with 1 part Shale and 1 part water.
Before the mix dries, most of it is wiped off with Q tips or a cloth leaving plenty of dirt trapped in all those places that Q23’s seemed to be covered with.
All being well, these should be on display at the May exhibition:
www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/calendar/event/503-thames-valley-model-rail-expo-2012/
Train red in the 50’s and early 60’s was darker than bus red (though later on it all became bus red ).
One of the problems (even allowing for variations in film) seems to me that train red was very bright when applied - to the extent of having a slight orange tint. It quickly greyed, so for stock that had been around for a while the colour was quite different from when cars were released to traffic.
Peugeot Cherry (Red) was said to be good for representing the red but I wasn’t sure when I tried it at first (but see later).
I’ve had a couple of Little Bus Company resin kits for several years that I got on a well known auction site - a Q23 driver and a Q38 trailer. I was hoping for some Q27 or Q35 bodies to come up but they never seem to - trying to get a varied rake.
Anyway, I thought I’d have a go at these. Since I have nothing else to complete the set, I might as well have 2 different Q body colours in order to practice. First up, the Q38 trailer which I sprayed Nissan Flame Red. This feels ‘right’ to me for newly overhauled stock, and although it’s bright, I don’t expect to have many (if any) more cars this colour, feel it is ok.
Next up, the Q23 driver. The top coat on this is Peugeot Cherry. I wasn’t altogether happy with this until I started weathering. This seemed to bring it to life a lot, especially as the Q23 has many panels for dirt to get caught in the corners.
My normal method (above the frames) is to coat with a mix of Joes Model Trains acrylics. These are sold for weathering track and rails but I find them equally good for weathering stock. My mix for this was 3 parts Dark Brown with 1 part Shale and 1 part water.
Before the mix dries, most of it is wiped off with Q tips or a cloth leaving plenty of dirt trapped in all those places that Q23’s seemed to be covered with.
All being well, these should be on display at the May exhibition:
www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/calendar/event/503-thames-valley-model-rail-expo-2012/
