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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2012 21:54:10 GMT
Evening all,
I was wondering after all these years travelling on these beasts, wether the noise that comes from where the guards panel used to be when the doors are commanded to be opened or closed have any relation to its previous use?
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Post by metman on Feb 29, 2012 23:01:05 GMT
Good question, and one I've often wondered about. It's like a frantic 'tickticktick'!
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Post by causton on Mar 1, 2012 0:38:52 GMT
Where *did* the guards panel go? I always sit on those tiny seats at the back of the 1st car and forget to actually look out for signs of where it once was!
(I also see on the back of the first 'normal' seat in the carriage (opposite side of the single-leaf door to the tiny seats) what looks like an isolating cock for something saying open and closed which I always want to turn but don't for fear it might be something vital!)
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Post by metrider on Mar 1, 2012 7:02:55 GMT
Where *did* the guards panel go? I always sit on those tiny seats at the back of the 1st car and forget to actually look out for signs of where it once was! Look at the sidewall between the single leaf door and the rear wall of the carriage. You'll see a large rectangular blanked off area. There I suppose. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2012 8:05:33 GMT
Good question, and one I've often wondered about. It's like a frantic 'tickticktick'! I always used to think the buttons still existed and they are just being remotely operated ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2012 13:47:05 GMT
Good question, and one I've often wondered about. It's like a frantic 'tickticktick'! I always used to think the buttons still existed and they are just being remotely operated ;D They used to be. Before the refurb, we had to open and close the guards position switch when changing ends and operate the door buttons in the cab. As far as I was aware at the time, the panels had all been removed, so I've no idea what the ticking noise is  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2012 14:29:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2012 15:34:46 GMT
I always used to think the buttons still existed and they are just being remotely operated ;D They used to be. Before the refurb, we had to open and close the guards position switch when changing ends and operate the door buttons in the cab. As far as I was aware at the time, the panels had all been removed, so I've no idea what the ticking noise is Could be the contacts under the buttons? Would this also mean that the A stock could be guard operated if neccesary pre-refurb? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2012 15:35:12 GMT
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Post by rincew1nd on Mar 1, 2012 20:06:48 GMT
I can't remember which stock it was, but someone once told me that if you lent on the right place, on the right panel (on the right stock) then the doors would close.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2012 21:54:42 GMT
They used to be. Before the refurb, we had to open and close the guards position switch when changing ends and operate the door buttons in the cab. As far as I was aware at the time, the panels had all been removed, so I've no idea what the ticking noise is Could be the contacts under the buttons? Would this also mean that the A stock could be guard operated if neccesary pre-refurb? correct the contacts are still there and working. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2012 22:21:12 GMT
Could be the contacts under the buttons? Would this also mean that the A stock could be guard operated if neccesary pre-refurb? correct the contacts are still there and working. So they are the source of the sound? |
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Post by 1018509 on Mar 1, 2012 22:38:55 GMT
They used to be. Before the refurb, we had to open and close the guards position switch when changing ends and operate the door buttons in the cab. As far as I was aware at the time, the panels had all been removed, so I've no idea what the ticking noise is Could be the contacts under the buttons? Would this also mean that the A stock could be guard operated if neccesary pre-refurb? The doors could certainly be operated with what was the guard's panel opened and the correct contacts, where the buttons used to be, held closed. I know because I have done it as a TT1 when for whatever reason the cab buttons wouldn't work and the train was the last one. Other than a last train though the train would run empty out of service. The train, up to refurb, could be guard operated at any time by using the door buttons fitted in the cab. |
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Post by metman on Mar 1, 2012 23:23:55 GMT
So if a crew member was in the middle or rear cabs they could open close the doors? This is not possible now? I love these trains!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 5:13:18 GMT
I love these trains! Still the best train on the underground ;D ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 8:11:57 GMT
correct the contacts are still there and working. So they are the source of the sound? yes, they still form parts of a working circuit. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2012 18:04:26 GMT
So they are the source of the sound? yes, they still form parts of a working circuit. Thanks you! Maybe we could see a return of a guard operated A stock on either 5110 or 5234 |
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Post by 1018509 on Mar 3, 2012 20:48:43 GMT
So if a crew member was in the middle or rear cabs they could open close the doors? This is not possible now? I love these trains! Not true. On OPO pre refurb A60's although all cabs were present not all were modified with door controls. I believe any unmodified middle cab also had the guard's panel blanked off with nowhere to insert the guard's key and no door buttons in the cab. I dare say in a dire emergency the guard's barrel could be turned in a blanked off panel and the door contacts could be operated from there as well but I don't know if it was ever tried. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2012 21:28:22 GMT
That would be very interesting to see
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