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Post by programmes1 on Feb 11, 2012 13:43:28 GMT
Something Auxsetreq mentioned in another thread about not everything being carried out as per Central Line Project. Does anyone know what the full extant of the project was, a list perhaps.
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Post by Tom on Feb 13, 2012 18:15:39 GMT
The CLP was the Project to modernise Rolling Stock, Signalling, Power Supplies and Track which ran from the late 1980s to around 2002.
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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 13, 2012 19:05:26 GMT
As I recall from the video preeeeeeezentation shown to us locally around 1990, featuring a White City Training Centre instructor trying to act like he was on the telly all the time by giving it large with the old hand gestures...........
The VHS tape was loaded into the VCR by a lesbian with a Belfast accent who reminded me of Hattie Jacques. After the "show" we had a question and answer session about the forthcoming CLP with Miss Jacques who came out with the bizarre statement that men who wear white sports socks are gay..............<<< I have complete recall...............
All the track was to be consolidated - which I think means the embankments and so on bolstered with concrete etc. Allowing trains to motor up to 100 and then coast up to 120kph. Complete end to end working - No Northolt Loughtons , NPK White city reversers etc. ATS - Automatic Train Supervision, which I think is in operation. The vid was BIG on the ATP/ATO/ATS thing. New substations in a nice pale blue and some other stuff that I can't recall. Oh yeah, and it was to be *The Showcase Line* - Well it was when for the first time in history a train gave birth to a baby motor at Chancery Lane one afternoon. All together now - Ahhhhh....................
Some of it happened, some of it didn't. As far as I know, the CLP completed in 2006. But the video preeeeeeezentation, was with hindsight, away-with-the-fairies stuff. Which gives us all hope. Who mentioned 2018?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 19:28:11 GMT
Allowing trains to motor up to 100 and then coast up to 120kph. That is a rather scary prospect, 85kph is more than enough on the flimsy, taped up, juddery 1992 stock. Thank goodness that never did happen, something could have happened that would have made Chancery Lane look pretty minor at those sort of speeds. It seems a ludicrous even conceiving the idea of ordering rolling stock thats top rated for mainline speeds of 75mph on a deep level tube line, reguardless of whether there are a few big gaps in intermediate stations in outside areas.
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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 13, 2012 19:37:58 GMT
Allowing trains to motor up to 100 and then coast up to 120kph. That is a rather scary prospect, 85kph is more than enough on the flimsy, taped up, juddery 1992 stock. Thank goodness that never did happen, something could have happened that would have made Chancery Lane look pretty minor at those sort of speeds. It seems a ludicrous even conceiving the idea of ordering rolling stock thats top rated for mainline speeds of 75mph on a deep level tube line, reguardless of whether there are a few big gaps in intermediate stations in outside areas. Well the idea was that the consolidated track bed and welded rails would permit it..............The train's speedos do go up to 120..........
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Post by superteacher on Feb 13, 2012 21:05:10 GMT
Ironically, the frequency of peak hour trains is now, in some cases, less than before the project began! Whatever happened to 33tph? Whatever happened to at least 30tph peak service in both directions from 4pm until 7pm?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 23:23:25 GMT
And we were complaining about the length of the Jub upgrade...
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Post by superteacher on Feb 13, 2012 23:38:41 GMT
And we were complaining about the length of the Jub upgrade... Yes, and at least that one got finished! (well, bar one more timetable upgrade, it will be!)
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Post by jardine01 on Feb 14, 2012 15:07:46 GMT
Why does the Central not run 33 trains per hour?
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Post by superteacher on Feb 14, 2012 16:07:54 GMT
Why does the Central not run 33 trains per hour? I've heard various reasons, but it could be done. They don't even run 30tph eastbound in the evening peak - that's 29tph now!
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