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Post by tmfitter on Jan 30, 2012 18:23:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 12:41:06 GMT
thats because it now looks like a lunar landscape. every tree has been felled. disgraceful.
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Post by trt on Jan 31, 2012 12:44:23 GMT
They say coppiced at ground level, so the density should grow back over the next seven years, although the height will be lost forever. I don't know what it looked like before - any before and after shots anyone? They did the same to the WCML/LOROL about 8 years ago - the bats were not happy.
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Post by charleyfarley on Jan 31, 2012 13:26:06 GMT
If they don't like the noise of the trains, they shouldn't have bought a house next to a railway line. If the removal of the trees reduces their back garden privacy, put up a fence. If they really want to see deer, squirrels, bats, and badgers, move to a more isolated location far from road and railway line. It takes time to clean up a large work area. Some people will complain about anything.
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Post by tecchy on Jan 31, 2012 14:23:59 GMT
Railways arn't supposed to be beautiful (apart from some magnificent bridges and such!). The trees are a known factor for causing delays, erratic timetable workings, train damage and possible SPaDs. The trees should be assessed and removed accordingly. The company are doing what is necessary to avoid such incidents. I think it is about time too!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 15:01:15 GMT
LUL following Network Rail's line side carnage policy. I like trains but I also care about the environment why can't the trees just be cut back?
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Post by trt on Jan 31, 2012 15:17:18 GMT
Hm, CharleyFarley; rather harsh. Apart from the fact that for the vast majority of people it's budget and location that constrain their choice of house... (1) Noise - A home buyer would think long and hard about the noise issue and even try it out. I did, and it was intrusive but liveable with. Then someone changed the situation - a train every 2.5 minutes instead of every 10 minutes (Croxley Rail Link) = noise increase. Class 378 instead of the old 313's = decrease in noise. Bakerloo line 72 stock will be a vast increase in noise. Not sure about the S-stock. So you could buy a home in the middle of the country, away from the railway line, but someone still might decide 1500ft above your house would be a good place to route 747 cargo planes en route to a Midlands airport. (2) Privacy - Too many damned fences are going up all over the country. They can wreck the light-fall into a garden and destroy established planting, lawns etc., and they require environmentally unfriendly chemical treatments. (3) Sometimes a little urban wildlife is a bonus for people who have detached themselves from nature. But my comment about bats wasn't for the benefit of the residents, but for the benefit of the bats themselves, who use tree-lines as guides to their feeding grounds, from underneath bridges and in tunnels following the tree-line to feed on, say, the midges that swarm above balancing ponds. (4) A point not mentioned is the wind-break effect that a line of trees has, or the ability of a line of trees to stop a carriage rolling down an embankment in the event of a derailment as happened at Watford in 1996. And there is still a debate over the stabilising effect of tree roots on embankments and cuttings.
There's a balance can be achieved, but this situation where no or minimal vegetation work is done for years on end, followed by a complete slash and burn, is bound to cause bad feeling with the residents. No-one is saying that the company shouldn't perform trackside management, just that it could be done in a much more sympathetic way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2012 17:29:34 GMT
I'm with Charlie on this one. I suspect that a large factor in the tone of the article is the journalist hyping up the subject but, even so, these complaints reek of nimby-ism. In fact these same complainants will be the first to make jokes about "the wrong type of leaves" or complain about leaf fall delays. LU face so many potential problems in providing such an intense service that you can't blame them for eliminating one that is so easily solvable; railways everywhere are doing the same thing. The desolate appearance of the embankment will soon soften once the summer comes and natural growth restarts. As for the noise, the sound of electric trains is far less intrusive than road traffic and aircraft noise which affects pretty much everyone in the London area.
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