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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 11:46:34 GMT
I tried to do a search but couldn't find anything so sorry if that has been posted before.
When trains Terminate at Marble Arch (I was on one this morning) Where do they go from there?
I wanted to stick around at Lancaster gate afterwards to see if I could see any empty trains passing. but would have been late for work.
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Post by auxsetreq on Jan 30, 2012 12:32:02 GMT
Either into the sidings, or they can carry on empty to wherever. Usually into the sidings though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 14:10:14 GMT
Was the train being reversed in the siding (singular - there is only one) west to east (a simple move, change ends once) or east to west (change ends three times - in the EB platform, in the siding and then in the WB platform).
The west to east move is more common and if it was a late runner, it could be held in the siding for its correct path eastbound.
If it was a dud train, then it could return east (to Hainault depot) at a time to suit the service and the Controller. This would be dependent on the nature of the defect and at which end of the train. If the defect was on the west end and not serious enough to 'screw' ther service, the best option would be for it to continue to Ruislip depot.
If it was a dud eastbound train, which maybe deemed not desirable to go on to Hainault (i.e. it might 'screw' the service), then it could be reversed via the siding and thence back to Ruislip depot, again at a time to suit.
In the case of serious defects, trains are sometimes left in the siding/sidings until after traffic and moved then to the preferred depot.
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Post by ruislip on Feb 5, 2012 23:55:52 GMT
Are there still regular Marble Arch reversers like there were in the 70s?
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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 6, 2012 0:57:43 GMT
Are there still regular Marble Arch reversers like there were in the 70s? If you mean the Liverpool St to Marble Arch off peak shopping trains - No......... ........... Marble is used to get trains out of the way, getting them back on time when running late by turning them short, or when there's a shut down ahead or engineering work and so on. Service requirements I think it's called. Ditto Holborn and the Street............. Guards and motormen used to meet at the Street. Get on their first pick up in the EB platform, take it up the Street's siding then would go back n forth twixt the Street n Marble until one or both of them had a mental breakdown. Second only to the Epping Ongars for sheer tedium. I experienced my first physical assault as a guard at Hoborn WB on a Liverpool St to Marble Arch shopping train. A lunchtime pi$$head lifted me clean off my feet. Yes, I was that light/trim/slim/sexy in those days! If he attempted it now he'd put his back out and get a hernia.............. These days the sidings are used as little as possible so as not to disturb *Professor* Brain Cox who uses Marble Arch in his research to find neutrinos and gamma rays as they pass through massive vats of Ribena. When he's not doing that he does other things down there. Like attach giant chicken legs to human torsos. That's how the world acquired Olly Murs............
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Post by Oracle on Feb 6, 2012 8:13:46 GMT
I used to use the 'shorts' on the Central when I worked off Old Bond Street. On the Picc we had the Wood Green-Barons Court 'shorts' which must equally have driven crews insane.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2012 9:01:14 GMT
Kennington to Golders or Archway was another fun load of trips!!
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Post by auxsetreq on Feb 6, 2012 10:17:39 GMT
I used to use the 'shorts' on the Central when I worked off Old Bond Street. On the Picc we had the Wood Green-Barons Court 'shorts' which must equally have driven crews insane. I suppose the ultimate must of been the Aldwych shuttle. I used to do a turn where we'd go to Holborn to pick up the shuttle and run it empty to Northfields. The crew we relieved were by then gibbering wrecks........... The demographics have changed. Is that the right term "demographics"? What with the two big Westfields either end the main pipe, and of course internet shopping, the west end isn't so busy as it used to be. Or appears not to be. So the shopping shuttle is no longer needed. But of course the real BIG crowds now take the Tube to Hainault to sample Hainault BBQ and Kebabs just outside the station. That and the Mystic hair salon of course. The original CLP plan as preeeezented to us back in the early nineties was for no booked siding trips at all. Complete end to end working, the sidings just used for emergencies. This never happened, along with many others things. But don't worry, the EVOstuck away-with-the-faires fantasy Tube is still on course to deliver. It cannot be allowed to fail..............
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Post by causton on Feb 6, 2012 15:05:34 GMT
But of course the real BIG crowds now take the Tube to Hainault to sample Hainault BBQ and Kebabs just outside the station. That and the Mystic hair salon of course. I wouldn't say that - everyone on the forum will be going there now! I'm topping up my Oyster to go now!* *no.
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