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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 12:55:21 GMT
I live in Chesham and usually get the 07.31 Aldgate train in the mornings (nearly always an old train, not one of the new walk through ones). My question is: when do drivers decide to put the heating on in carriages? Is it purely up to them? Do they have temperature readings in the cab? Reason for asking is that it has been quite cold recently (particularly on Monday and Tuesday of last week when it was freezing) yet the heating is often not on in the mornings, leaving me and the rest of my fellow passengers sitting there in very cold conditions for at least an hour. Thanks.
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Post by trt on Jan 25, 2012 13:34:56 GMT
The heating takes absolutely ages to make a difference on those trains. I expect that the temperature differences between trains are down to whether that particular set has just come out of sidings or has already made a couple of runs along the line.
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Post by tmfitter on Jan 25, 2012 13:43:38 GMT
First thing to do is to walk into another car chances are that the other cars heaters are working, the T/op has a light indication in his cab to tell him the heaters are on, but he wont know if a car has lost its heaters unless he walks through it or if somebody reports it to him.This time of year the T/ops are expected to have the Heaters on. Hope this helps
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Post by tmfitter on Jan 25, 2012 13:49:00 GMT
if i get on a cold car the first thing i do is feel the Heater plate under the seat to see if its warming up, if its stone cold i would try another car, if that or more cars are cold chances are the T/op has the heating switched off.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 13:49:46 GMT
Thanks trt. I can appreciate it may take ages to heat the whole carriage once it's on but I'm fairly certain it's not on at all. You can usually tell the heating's on cos the vents are under the seats and the back of your legs get a nice warm blast. There were several days last week (namely Monday & Tuesday) when it was clearly not on at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2012 13:56:35 GMT
Thanks tmfitter. I will try that next time.
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Post by tmfitter on Jan 25, 2012 15:11:16 GMT
obviously if it feels warm around the heater i wouldnt advise touching the Heater! you can assume its on and will take abit of time to warm up the car.
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Post by citysig on Jan 25, 2012 22:44:38 GMT
I live in Chesham and usually get the 07.31 Aldgate train in the mornings (nearly always an old train, not one of the new walk through ones). Won't be long now  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2012 22:28:54 GMT
My experiences of the S Stock over the last year or so are that the cooling is more effective than the heating. Maybe this is because the standard temperature setting is too low but, unless it is turned up a bit you should make sure you still take a thick coat in winter.
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Post by metman on Jan 26, 2012 22:39:19 GMT
Yes not been too impressed with the S stock heating either. Hopefully PDC will help. You can't beat a good A stock pyro-bar heater, even if it burns! ;D
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Post by tecchy on Jan 27, 2012 21:47:36 GMT
In the A Stocks the motor cars (ones witha drivers cab in) are always hotter than the trailers (If that helps) when the heating is on. Some people can't bear that heat but I quite like the warm so I find when all the windows are closed the A Stock are pretty warm!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 9:44:36 GMT
Hey guys. Sorry for my radio silence but I've been off sick for a week. Got my usual train in to work today - went into 2 separate carriages and there was no heating in either. Rolled into Farrindgon at 08.40 absolutely frozen after an hour and ten minutes of no heating. Absolutely ridiculous in this weather.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 16:34:38 GMT
Very poor mate.
If it was me personally I would be complaining - There is absolutely no excuse for this, especially in the cold weather we are currently having to deal with.
Out of interest I am assuming it was an A stock as you mention the seperate carriages?
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Post by citysig on Feb 5, 2012 20:27:48 GMT
Pass the car numbers to any member of staff - which they will pass to us. It won't help the journey you've had, but it will help those who follow.
A train won't necessarily be taken out of service (on the Chesham branch, better to have a cold train than no train for an hour) but we will assign a train technician to see if it can be fixed on the road, or arrange to get the train changed over.
0840 at Farringdon? And there were no trains from Harrow onwards that you could have changed onto? We often find people will stick with their journey regardless of conditions, rather than alight and board a different train. The number of times someone gets off at Amersham and reports a "suspect package" that has sat infront of them since leaving Liverpool Street.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2012 21:45:57 GMT
While on the same subject, but a bit off the original topic, once the A Stock has gone, I assume the Heater boards (H-ON and H-OFF) will become surperfluous?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Feb 5, 2012 23:35:48 GMT
. The number of times someone gets off at Amersham and reports a "suspect package" that has sat infront of them since leaving Liverpool Street. "Should I say something? perhaps I should. But if I do they'll take the train out of service and I'll be late. I wonder how far behind the next train is anyway? Even if there is another one behind, they'll probably shut the line down whilst the package is checked over, and then I'll be VERY late. Anyway, who am I going to tell? - I don't know my way round the next station and the the driver's several cars away. Ah, this is my stop - perhaps I had better say something after all........" |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2012 11:52:50 GMT
Very poor mate. If it was me personally I would be complaining - There is absolutely no excuse for this, especially in the cold weather we are currently having to deal with. Out of interest I am assuming it was an A stock as you mention the seperate carriages? Mikey - I have complained twice via London Underground's website. I ticked the box saying I'd like to be contacted via email but I've had no reply to either complaint. If A stock is the older type of train then yes it was. On a better note though the heating did appear to be on this morning! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2012 12:00:47 GMT
Pass the car numbers to any member of staff - which they will pass to us. It won't help the journey you've had, but it will help those who follow. A train won't necessarily be taken out of service (on the Chesham branch, better to have a cold train than no train for an hour) but we will assign a train technician to see if it can be fixed on the road, or arrange to get the train changed over. 0840 at Farringdon? And there were no trains from Harrow onwards that you could have changed onto? We often find people will stick with their journey regardless of conditions, rather than alight and board a different train. The number of times someone gets off at Amersham and reports a "suspect package" that has sat infront of them since leaving Liverpool Street. Thanks for this Metcontrol. I will try to get the car numbers next time. Re changing at Harrow, the journey from Chesham to Farringdon is scheduled to take 1 hour 6 minutes but usually overruns by about 10 minutes. Harrow is roughly the halfway point and is usually v busy so changing means I would have to give up my precious seat and stand for about 30-40 minutes (not nice). There is often another southbound train at Harrow but I think it terminates at Baker Street anyway which is no good for me as I'd have to change again. Incindentally the other southbound train this morning was terminated at Harrow (reason unknown) so we had all of their passengers pile onto my train. Tight squeeze. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2012 9:17:06 GMT
Morning all. Just to say there was no heating on my train again this morning. My carriage number was 5120. I also spotted 6120 6121 6122 but I didn't go in any of them.
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Post by 1018509 on Feb 8, 2012 23:56:45 GMT
.......... will assign a train technician to see if it can be fixed on the road, or arrange to get the train changed over. Not much a technician can do on the road. I don't think changing underframe fuses on the road is considered a good idea these days. |
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Post by citysig on Feb 9, 2012 23:56:12 GMT
But, perhaps, it is not an underframe fuse that needs changing. You'd be surprised (or maybe not ) at what may or may not need to be done once a "fault" is attended to. There have been 3 trains this week (on just the 2 late shifts I've worked so far) which I've seen "fixed" on the road |
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